Yes, and they should be integrated with the males
Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units
No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training
No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat
The risk increases in the military.
The battlefield simply is not the place for women.
Men's roles are to protect them... and most civilized men do it instinctively.
Then there is the sexual aspect... those tensions are not needed.
For one moment let's say women should be... then they should have to meet the standards men have to achieve. No watering down the entry level.
Watering them down will surely get people killed.
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Unfortunately we're not talking about unarmed combat in a stadium. The M16A3 is a great equalizer even in the most fragile of hands.2) Take a hundred average men of military age. Take a hundred women average men of military age. Throw them naked in the Rose Bowl and tell them that the side that incapacites the other side completely will earn five million dollars apiece, and say also that there's no rules. Wanna bet which team wins?
I wouldn't rush to chastise someone about babbling given your priors here.Of course the men will win, so quit babbling about relative differences.
I know some women who could do that. I know some men who could not. What's your point? Not every soldier can qualify to be a Ranger, airborne, of hang in the light infantry. But they could potentially serve in a mechanized infantry unit.Don't like that comparison? Take the same teams, give them 100 lb packs with field rations and rifles, and tell them to start marching, that anyone who sits down or even leans against a pole is disqualified, and see which team wins the money.
I know women who could do this and men who could not. You're not helping your argument here.Remember, we're talking infantry here, and those guys march all over the damn place at times. (Sometimes the trucks run out of gas.)
Not all men in combat are physically able to do everything already. Somehow things do get done. I am actually proposing improving that, as with actual strength standards(remember, the PT standards currently used are not a measure of strength but overall physical fitness) that are uniform, this would weed out weakling men.
Irrelevant. The vast majority are not in the military. The vast majority is not how we should base decisions. If women can achieve strength standards(this is an important caveat, without that I would agree with you), they should be allowed to serve in infantry/combat.I'm aware that when men and women are in peak condition the vast majority of men are stronger than the vast majority of women which is why men and women rarely compete head to head in the Olympics.
Close, but not quite true. In any combat situation, you want optimally the best infantry we can find. Men and women are different and bring different strengths to any job. When I was in the navy, guess who got called when work needed to be done in tight spaces as just one example.In ground battle I would think optimally unless we're highly outnumbered we want the absolute strongest infantry we can find. Since men are naturally stronger than women and this is obvious when both sexes are in optimum condition the strongest infantry possible is an infantry of men.
And we are still talking about a tiny issue, based on the numbers you supplied. 1.8 %The pregnancy issue is two fold. The first part is the distractions, the sexual relationships, the mess it inevitable creates that there is no room for IMO. The second is the actual pregnancies and being "battle ready."
Proof?The risk increases in the military.
NOTED.The battlefield simply is not the place for women.
I've always preferred the uncivilized ones, myself.Men's roles are to protect them... and most civilized men do it instinctively.
Speak for yourself, man.Then there is the sexual aspect... those tensions are not needed.
Works for me.For one moment let's say women should be... then they should have to meet the standards men have to achieve. No watering down the entry level.
If you say so. You are the expert, after all.Watering them down will surely get people killed.
This thread is titled : "Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?"
The thread you apparently thought you were posting in must be titled : "Should the toughest women Lerxst has personally encountered be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?"
Should I start that thread and meet you there ?