View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

    15 8.57%
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Thread: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    We'll separate the men from the women in world competitions on swimming, basketball, and everything else but on the battlefield we'll pretend the sexes are the same. Makes sense, right?
    Sense is over-rated, you need Faith, Faith in the god of Political Correctness.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    From beginning to end funny.
    Versus your posts? Hilarious irony.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Sense is over-rated, you need Faith, Faith in the god of Political Correctness.
    I prefer to put my faith in cops.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I prefer to put my faith in cops.



    I put mine in me and my training. Police, are most often historians, come to document the carnage.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Well, that is two posts in a row of ad hominem baiting.

    Thanks so much for gracing us with your presence, I wonder how forlorn PF is knowing they have to do without your valuable services.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Well, that is two posts in a row of ad hominem baiting.
    You keep using that phrase. I do not think you know what it means.

    Thanks so much for gracing us with your presence, I wonder how forlorn PF is knowing they have to do without your valuable services.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    There are a couple of things that need to brought to light in this reality. The first is that men and women are not equal in everything, including ability and the way in which they are treated and behave.

    The obvious difference is physical as there are no female professional football players, and there are no women winners of the Tour De France for example.

    The second is that women and men, in intense sexual competition engage in very different behavior and are treated very differently as a result.

    Those who think modern infantrymen no longer require great strength or endurance are kidding themselves. The average combat load is nearly a 100 lbs when you add in body armor, ammunition, water, food, batteries, radios, and medical kits. If you have never spent days in days in massive heat under this load walking patrols and think that all women will be able to take this kind of punishment you are fooling yourself.

    There are women who can, but that introduces the second issue, there will always be few women in the ranks of infantrymen.

    Men will behave as men do, and when they are 19 years old it is a safe bet that many men will simultaneously fall in love with the few women, anyone who has seen the 'queens of Iraq (for a year)' will know what I am talking about in general, and will see clearly that it will be magnified many times over in a fierecely machismo environment like an infantry platoon.

    The simple fact of the matter is that the infantry's mission is to close with and destroy the enemy, and it must behave in a cohesive manner that same sex environments help to create. The sexual competition is fine in the barracks, not so helpful when the bullets start flying in reality.

    The infantry exists to deliver victory for its nation, not a social tool to address percieved or actual injustice. When women only schools are eliminated, whose necessity is clearly not life and death, then maybe we can start addressing things like allowing women to serve in the infantry.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You keep using that phrase. I do not think you know what it means.



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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by rsay33 View Post
    Strenhgt of arm has lost much of its importance in modern combat. Accuracy and the ability to function under stress are much more important.
    And in case you are wondering, with the proper training, women outperform men in stress tests hands down.
    Strength has not lost it's importance. I have seen all the stuff these men must wear and carry. Things have not yet changed so much that strength isn't important. And when you're discussing battle missions at any moment any member of the unit may need to become a rescuer carrying another man -wearing all the same heavy gear, out of battle. I'm sorry but I know way too many men who serve who DO NOT WANT WOMEN IN INFANTRY for good reasons and I respect their opinions. There are a great many ways women can serve in the military, but infantry is not one of them.

    To argue strength isn't important anymore is just beyond ridiculous considering the outfit and gear alone, let alone other tasks one might have to do.

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    Thumbs up Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I do not think you know what it means.
    This is not the extent of your ignorance, but thanks for revealing this new facet.

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