View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

    15 8.57%
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I dunno, given the size of the explosion, it seems like she caught you trying to hide something else.
    I forgot to add I understand what you are talking about working in those really bad 'hoods and you guys do a great job. Well the honest ones at least. In Brooklyn for a while there were a lot of crooked cops but for the most part even the crooked ones wanted to protect bystanders. BTW the Rev grew up in a pretty rough hood too.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I forgot to add I understand what you are talking about working in those really bad 'hoods and you guys do a great job. Well the honest ones at least. In Brooklyn for a while there were a lot of crooked cops but for the most part even the crooked ones wanted to protect bystanders. BTW the Rev grew up in a pretty rough hood too.
    Not a cop, but I share your respect for the profession.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Not a cop, but I share your respect for the profession.
    Sorry I just assumed you were. But it seems like you do some pretty dangerous work with gangs and all.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I will say that the biggest handicap to women these days is women.
    I find this insulting. The biggest handicap for women in regards to the topic at hand is that they are not in general equal to men in size, stature, or strength and that when they have sex they tend to get knocked up. Women don't put these problems on women. These are inherent of being a woman.

    I also find your desperate continued tedious comparison of your own work with gang youths to holding your own on a battlefield in foreign lands with men a tad tiresome.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I find this insulting. The biggest handicap for women in regards to the topic at hand is that they are not in general equal to men in size, stature, or strength and that when they have sex they tend to get knocked up. Women don't put these problems on women. These are inherent of being a woman.
    Adult women seem to be able to manage their own sexuality and train to the level of position that they desire. I've seen plenty do it. Sorry you find it insulting, but I'm sure you'll manage to deal.

    I also find your desperate continued tedious comparison of your own work with gang youths to holding your own on a battlefield in foreign lands with men a tad tiresome.
    Oh, it's probably not one whit more tiresome than your ongoing need to portray your female peers as delicate little flowers who need to be protected from ugliness by big strong men.



    I'm quite certain that women who see men as peers and equals are disconcerting to some other women who have a vested interest in retaining the image of helplessness.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 05-27-09 at 01:18 PM.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Adult women seem to be able to manage their own sexuality and train to the level of position that they desire. I've seen plenty do it. Sorry you find it insulting, but I'm sure you'll manage to deal.
    We're talking about in combat. Sending them off on combat specific missions. Try to stay on topic. It's not about you. Your job. Women in general. etc. It's about specifically women in combat.


    Oh, it's probably not one whit more tiresome than your ongoing need to portray your female peers as delicate little flowers who need to be protected from ugliness by big strong men.
    I don't think women are delicate little flowers. But I also don't think just cause I worked in the big 'ol city at some point that I'm battlefield ready.

    I'm quite certain that women who see men as peers and equals are disconcerting to some other women who have a vested interest in retaining the image of helplessness.
    So either a woman can hold her own on a battlefield or she's helpless?

    Please. Admitting that most fit men are stronger than me when I'm at my fittest is not acting helpless so much as it is not being in denial about the realities dealing with biological make up in men vs women.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    We're talking about in combat. Sending them off on combat specific missions. Try to stay on topic. It's not about you. Your job. Women in general. etc. It's about specifically women in combat.
    I don't think that any of us here have forgotten the topic, dear.

    I don't think women are delicate little flowers. But I also don't think just cause I worked in the big 'ol city at some point that I'm battlefield ready.
    If you'd bothered to read the thread, you'd understand that I never made that claim. I have, however, worked with women who can, and do, have the capacity to work in combat. I even linked to specific examples of women who are working on SWAT teams, which is a quite close comparison to combat. And, if you peruse some of the posts of men here, they've made the same claim...that they've worked with women who are physically able to hold their own.

    So either a woman can hold her own on a battlefield or she's helpless?
    False dichotomy combined with a strawman. Wow, mad logic skillz, ftw.

    Please. Admitting that most fit men are stronger than me when I'm at my fittest is not acting helpless so much as it is not being in denial about the realities dealing with biological make up in men vs women.
    The problem is that you use your personal inadequacies to deny OTHER WOMEN the opportunity to prove their fitness to fill this role.

    Don't want to serve in combat? Great. Me either. But I'm not the one keeping OTHER WOMEN from doing so. You are.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 05-27-09 at 01:37 PM.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Some unexpected responses from some people here. I love it. Peels away some of the faux veneer. If nothing else, a damn good thread simply for the illumination factor.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...le-troops.html

    That is the discussion that has given birth to this particular poll.

    I want to be clear with the question here. I am asking if you think females should be allowed to serve as infantrymen(persons?) in the military. That means, they are not a cook or aircraft mechanic who has some basic infantry skills gleaned from either boot camp, or extra infantry training like the Marines put all personnell though.

    What we are asking is if you think women should be allowed to be grunts.
    No. Never.

    If they do want to, then they better be accepting of the real possibility of being raped by their captors should they fall into enemy hands.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Blasphemy! IDF females out on patrol.



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