View Poll Results: Will the CA courts overturn Prop 8?

Voters
34. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    16 47.06%
  • No

    18 52.94%
Page 16 of 16 FirstFirst ... 6141516
Results 151 to 154 of 154

Thread: Will CA do the right thing and overturn Prop 8?

  1. #151
    Banned Goobieman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Seen
    03-22-15 @ 12:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    17,343

    Re: Will CA do the right thing and overturn Prop 8?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    That would make sense of course, otherwise what is the point in the amendment.
    There are those here that do not understand that basic concept.
    I'm reasonably sure that failure to understand is willful.

  2. #152
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Redneck Riviera
    Last Seen
    07-09-11 @ 04:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,728

    Re: Will CA do the right thing and overturn Prop 8?

    For the record, I think that Prop 8 sets California back at least a hundred years in recognizing the human rights of all members of society.

    HOWEVER, having said that, the voters of California HAVE, in fact, spoken. I do not support activist courts overturning democratic initiatives.

  3. #153
    Sage
    UtahBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    09-12-16 @ 08:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,513

    Re: Will CA do the right thing and overturn Prop 8?

    I guessed wrong.....
    and I still don't get it. Marriage is a social contract, and if 2 gay people agree to such a contract, and document its particulars, how is that any different from what heterosexuals do?If it is just the terminology, or the word marriage, who can stop them from using the word once a "civil union" contract is in force?
    Certainly a common law marriage is legal in many states and those unions have no documentation to describe the particulars.
    And I don't see how the state should have any say in the matter, or is there a compelling state interest that I am missing? Don't we already have the right to assign our assets to anyone we choose upon death?
    Oracle of Utah
    Truth rings hollow in empty heads.

  4. #154
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Redneck Riviera
    Last Seen
    07-09-11 @ 04:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,728

    Re: Will CA do the right thing and overturn Prop 8?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Marriage is a social contract, and if 2 gay people agree to such a contract, and document its particulars, how is that any different from what heterosexuals do?If it is just the terminology, or the word marriage, who can stop them from using the word once a "civil union" contract is in force?
    Certainly a common law marriage is legal in many states and those unions have no documentation to describe the particulars.
    And I don't see how the state should have any say in the matter, or is there a compelling state interest that I am missing? Don't we already have the right to assign our assets to anyone we choose upon death?
    I think one of the arguments is that gay couples have to go to additional steps to document each other as next of kin, etc., than do hetero couples. However, even hetero married couples are smart to use a professional attorney to draft their will, etc, instead of relying on the state to distribute their assets. Really, no one should die intestate. And, it isn't much more expensive to designate next of kin when you're already doing a will. If you plan to have joint assets and/or children, it's basically an essential that you can't afford to live without.

    So, while I agree that gay marriage should be legal, I think that attempts to force this before the nation is ready to accept it actually do more harm than good. I look at the views of myself and my children, and can see that this is a trend that will ultimately and inevitably resolve itself in favor of equal rights for gay couples.

Page 16 of 16 FirstFirst ... 6141516

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •