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    Re: The Fair Tax

    a fair tax strips congress of much of its illegitimate power
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    As I said, it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I suspect that you'll eventually get something like the Fair Tax or a National Sales Tax -- and the Income Tax.

    This is why I have a greater preference for a universal Flat Income Tax.
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    Re: As I said, it seems

    LOL...
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    Re: The Fair Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by cannan89 View Post
    Why should we support any federal tax? There is enough revenue generated from other sources to maintain the budget from ten years ago. Instead of supporting the spending spree congress/Bush/Obama have been on, perhaps we should tighten our purse strings and get our house in order.
    What, do something that makes sense? Damn it man, we're talking about Washington, so get your head screwed on straight and worship the Messiah and everything his Holiness does, okay?

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    Re: The Fair Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    I think people who are in power are against the fair tax are against it because they feel it gives the citizens to much power its obvious how much tax people are paying therefor they control the spending rather than the government.Its a simple idea and government hates simple ideas.
    Oh, a simple idea to get the people to know how much the government is stealing from them is this:

    Make the people write the government a check every month for taxes, just like they pay mortgages and electric bills. Self-employed people do just that, usually quarterly, and there's no reason the wage earner couldn't be given a statement by their employer telling them their tax liability for the week or month.

    Why won't this simple idea gain traction? Because it would work it's intended purpose and make people KNOW what they're losing by an out of control government.

    Another idea is to move the tax filing deadline to Halloween. Gee Halloween is just a week before the Congressthings get elected. That would influence elections, can't have that.

    I'm fine with a national sales tax given one caveat: The Sixteenth Amendment authorizing income taxation is repealed first. But that's a national sales tax, applied solely at the point of sale, as the states apply it, not some comlicated confounded VAT where the total tax is hidden from the people in the purchase price.

    I'm betting Mr. Transparency, the Messiah Hisself, would stand in firm opposition to the above ideas, because they produce true transparency in an essential aspect of government.

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    Re: The Fair Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The absurd complexity of our tax system has little to do with the type of tax used. You can make sales taxes just as complex as income tax if you feel like it and vice versa.
    And given our Congress's history, they are going to make it extremely complex. Big Corporate business is going to get the exemptions and special deductions they've always had, the poor will pay little to no taxes, loopholes for the rich will be enacted and we'd have spent lots of money on a system no better than the one it replaces while risking Congress implementing both an income tax and sales tax. Remember, there's not a damn thing to stop them from merely not eliminating the income tax.
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    Re: The Fair Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And given our Congress's history, they are going to make it extremely complex. Big Corporate business is going to get the exemptions and special deductions they've always had, the poor will pay little to no taxes, loopholes for the rich will be enacted and we'd have spent lots of money on a system no better than the one it replaces while risking Congress implementing both an income tax and sales tax. Remember, there's not a damn thing to stop them from merely not eliminating the income tax.
    I'd suggest reading the Fair tax book, but yeah, Washington would probably find a way to screw it up.
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    Re: The Fair Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'd suggest reading the Fair tax book, but yeah, Washington would probably find a way to screw it up.
    Oh I understand Fair tax, and in theory isn't a bad idea. But someone else pointed this out to me a long time ago. When Congress enacts the bill to change the tax system there's absolutely nothing stopping it from repealing the part where it repeals the current system. So we risk having both tax systems at the same time. Furthermore, Congress has historically a hard time getting rid of taxes once they enact them.
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    Re: The Fair Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Oh I understand Fair tax, and in theory isn't a bad idea. But someone else pointed this out to me a long time ago. When Congress enacts the bill to change the tax system there's absolutely nothing stopping it from repealing the part where it repeals the current system. So we risk having both tax systems at the same time. Furthermore, Congress has historically a hard time getting rid of taxes once they enact them.
    Understandable, and it looks like that is exactly where they are trying to take things now, if they do, it'll probably result in yet another change in Washington for 2010, but then who knows, they'll probably end up worse the way things are going.
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    Re: The Fair Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Oh I understand Fair tax, and in theory isn't a bad idea. .
    I disagree. It is still a tax on labour.

    It is to Henry George that we must turn for the best taxation solution. It is a solution that not only does not tax individual labour but also helps to establish distributive justice and remedy the ills of private ownership of land and natural resources.
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