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Thread: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

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    Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    According to the FBI, in 2007:
    -There were 467 violent crimes for every 100k people, representing 1.408 million crimes.
    -Of those 1.408 million crimes, 29.35% were verifiably committed with a gun
    Thus:
    -One in 214 people will be a victim of a violent crime
    -One in 730 people will be a victim of a violent crime committed with a gun
    Violent Crime - Crime in the United States 2007

    Given that, who are more paranoid:
    -The people that look at the crime rate and want a gun for self-defense
    -The people that look at the crime rate involving guns and want more gun control
    Last edited by Goobieman; 05-22-09 at 02:29 PM.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    I went with both. I don't live in fear of guns or crime, and don't understand those who do. I gave the percentage numbers for your crime stats in other thread.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    I responded those who want more control because as a scientist I cannot avocate more control when there is no data to say such policies would make a difference.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Pro second amendment folks live in varying degrees of paranoia. The government could never, and wouldn't try to come to individual gun owners houses and round up guns. So this cold dead hands thing is paranoia in it's purest form.

    By the way...I own guns and am pro second amendment.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I went with both. I don't live in fear of guns or crime, and don't understand those who do. I gave the percentage numbers for your crime stats in other thread.
    Once you've seen living human flesh carved up like a holiday ham, or shot full of holes, once you've had the victim of a crime die under your hands, one's perspective on these matters, and the reality of violent crime becomes much more clear.
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Once you've seen living human flesh carved up like a holiday ham, or shot full of holes, once you've had the victim of a crime die under your hands, one's perspective on these matters, and the reality of violent crime becomes much more clear.
    Less than one half of one percent chance of being a victim of violent crime. About one tenth of one percent chance of being the victim of a violent crime committed with a gun. I am not going to let those chances affect my behavior.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Less than one half of one percent chance of being a victim of violent crime. About one tenth of one percent chance of being the victim of a violent crime committed with a gun. I am not going to let those chances affect my behavior.
    half of a percent for you personally. factor in the people you care about and/or are responsible for, and it goes up a bit.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    half of a percent for you personally. factor in the people you care about and/or are responsible for, and it goes up a bit.
    Not really. Actually less if we start figuring in other factors. Some people engage in behavior that increases their odds of being involved in a violent crime. Drug users and those involved in the drug trade as one example. Those people are much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, and inflate the statistics by an admittedly small amount.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not really. Actually less if we start figuring in other factors. Some people engage in behavior that increases their odds of being involved in a violent crime. Drug users and those involved in the drug trade as one example. Those people are much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, and inflate the statistics by an admittedly small amount.
    so you don't care about drug dealers/users. noted.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    so you don't care about drug dealers/users. noted.
    They are not me(any more), nor those I care for. That was the premise of the post of yours I replied to. Please do not put words into my mouth, thank you.

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