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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Less than one half of one percent chance of being a victim of violent crime. About one tenth of one percent chance of being the victim of a violent crime committed with a gun. I am not going to let those chances affect my behavior.
    I'm glad we've won over a PRO-GUN advocate now that you've proven that gun crimes are bull****, and anti-gunner are full of ****. Thanks.
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    So, let me ask:

    Whenever I meet someone who owns a gun, they always show me their legally registered handgun first. Then, when they get to know me, and we're hanging out, shooting the sh*t, they say, you wanna see something..?

    That's when they show me the illegal handgun(s).

    What percentage of legal handgun owners, also have an illegal handgun or rifle stashed away somewhere?

    What percentage of these people, when money is tight, will sell their illegal handgun or assault riffle to make a little extra cash?

    I mean, if you had to part with one or the other, then I think most people would let of the illegal weapon.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Because you might be that one. Why do you need to take it away? We shouldn't have to justify our rights in that way, those who want to strip us of these rights should have the burden of proof.
    Rofl. Yeah. You're paranoid if you look at the statistics and think you'll be within that 1 within 730 people. It's kind of like looking at shark attack statistics and keeping a harpoon around 'just in case'. Or better yet. Keeping a flotation device around you at all times because you have greater chances of dying.
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Rofl. Yeah. You're paranoid if you look at the statistics and think you'll be within that 1 within 730 people.
    Do you not have insurance? My parents' house is unlikely to be flooded but they still ticked that cover in the insurance agreement.

    Anyway this is not an argument for taking away the right.
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Do you not have insurance? My parents' house is unlikely to be flooded but they still ticked that cover in the insurance agreement.

    Anyway this is not an argument for taking away the right.
    Yeah. I just didn't put myself down for tornado insurance living in the East Coast even though it's been known to happen every 730 years or so.
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yeah. I just didn't buy tornado insurance in the East Coast.
    No, doubt most gun owners don't think they'll need anti-aircraft weapons.
    Or better yet. Keeping a flotation device around you at all times because you have greater chances of dying.
    Not really, not only are guns an important right and part of a culture and recreation but no doubt the risk of crime increases in certain situations.

    Plus he said a victim of crime committed with a gun of course which doesn't take into account numerous other occasions for self-defence. No doubt a gun would be quite useful if approached by someone with a knife.
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    No, doubt most gun owners don't think they'll need anti-aircraft weapons.
    Have you met Goobieman yet? Let me introduce you guys sometime.

    Not really, not only are guns an important right and part of a culture and recreation but no doubt the risk of crime increases in certain situations.
    Great. Keep them away from me and we'll be fine.

    Plus he said a victim of crime committed with a gun of course which doesn't take into account numerous other occasions for self-defence. No doubt a gun would be quite useful if approached by someone with a knife.
    Great. What you seem to fail to grasp is that the majority of people in cities don't feel all that great about people carrying concealed weapons. They don't even feel good about people carrying weapons in the open like cops. Seriously. You want your guns? Know that the majority of people in major cities are liberals who are fine with cops being the only ones with them. Ain't democracy great?
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Great. Keep them away from me and we'll be fine.
    As long as you don't try advocate banning them.


    Great. What you seem to fail to grasp is that the majority of people in cities don't feel all that great about people carrying concealed weapons. They don't even feel good about people carrying weapons in the open like cops. Seriously. You want your guns? Know that the majority of people in major cities are liberals who are fine with cops being the only ones with them. Ain't democracy great?
    What is the point in these random assertions?

    You appear to be making unsupported claims based on your own views.

    Are you aware that violent crime and gun crime have increased with restrictions in Britain? Or that a Harvard Study found that gun control is counterproductive when it comes to protecting against violent crime?
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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    Pro second amendment folks live in varying degrees of paranoia. The government could never, and wouldn't try to come to individual gun owners houses and round up guns. So this cold dead hands thing is paranoia in it's purest form.

    By the way...I own guns and am pro second amendment.
    Everyone knows the government went around confiscating guns after Katrina. The only reason looters stayed out of my neighborhood just downriver from the French Quarter was because there were too many of my neighbors with guns protecting it.

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    Re: Pro/anti-gun -- who is more paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    I think neither are paranoid. Each are reacting in understandable ways. The difference stems from a personal opinion, not political. Basically, both believe their opinions are justified due to morals. I think, though, both sides can agree that the unregistered guns are where much of the violent crimes involving guns come from.

    No, I can't agree.

    I love it when some guy (usually migrated northerners) tells me "Its registered" when speaking of his legally owned weapon in his home.

    NC doesn't have laws on registering your firearm.

    I don't believe that registering a weapon is going to keep a criminal or gang banger from using it in a violent crime.

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