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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Don't be to sure about it. Bush won a second term and Obama IS Bush. And Bush had a bad approval rating going into the 2004 election.
    Clinton had high approval ratings, but they didn't help Gore, nor did the tech bubble/economy stupid.

    Look at the opponent Bush had. John Kerry was as sad a candidate as McCain. We were at war, Kerry didn't offer any solutions.

    Come the 2012 election, Obama will have to defend his record, something he didn't have, or didn't have to do the first time around.

    Hope. Change. Unite. You drones... isn't going to work the second time.

    If the R's can set up structures so they nominate their own candidate, without the aid of D's and I's. Then we should do OK.

    McCain is a war hero, but as a presidential candidate showed little fighting spirit, little willingness to exploit Obama's numerous and serious weaknesses.

    Hell, Geraldine Ferraro and Joe Biden were more critical about Obama than McCain.

    I have to laugh at anyone who thinks his stewardship will improve things; just look at what he's doing. Spending bajillions (where has the money gone and why is there no stimulus from the spending?), cutting the military, having sought GI's to pay their own healthcare, dictating to industries, taking over industries, telling people where they should and should not travel, a Supreme Court nominee that believes the bench is where you should make law, their endless warnings of what we should and should not talk about, and then comes the complete perversion of healthcare and immigration reform.

    That's going to be a target rich environment in 2012.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Don't be to sure about it. Bush won a second term and Obama IS Bush. And Bush had a bad approval rating going into the 2004 election.
    You make a very strong arguement there sir.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Clinton had high approval ratings, but they didn't help Gore, nor did the tech bubble/economy stupid.

    Look at the opponent Bush had. John Kerry was as sad a candidate as McCain. We were at war, Kerry didn't offer any solutions.

    Come the 2012 election, Obama will have to defend his record, something he didn't have, or didn't have to do the first time around.

    Hope. Change. Unite. You drones... isn't going to work the second time.

    If the R's can set up structures so they nominate their own candidate, without the aid of D's and I's. Then we should do OK.

    McCain is a war hero, but as a presidential candidate showed little fighting spirit, little willingness to exploit Obama's numerous and serious weaknesses.

    Hell, Geraldine Ferraro and Joe Biden were more critical about Obama than McCain.

    I have to laugh at anyone who thinks his stewardship will improve things; just look at what he's doing. Spending bajillions (where has the money gone and why is there no stimulus from the spending?), cutting the military, having sought GI's to pay their own healthcare, dictating to industries, taking over industries, telling people where they should and should not travel, a Supreme Court nominee that believes the bench is where you should make law, their endless warnings of what we should and should not talk about, and then comes the complete perversion of healthcare and immigration reform.

    That's going to be a target rich environment in 2012.

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    Back to the,"Obama is Bush" statement. They both spent Bajillions on economic stimulus, and failed to stimulate chit.
    I absolutely did not see GWB for what he turned out to be, until mid-way into his second term. Hell, I even read kitty Kelly`s book and came away enough of a Bush sheeple to vote for him a second time. With Barry Obama I don`t see any kind of book helping what promises to be a nightmare of a presidency. Even Clitons bible wont help.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Come the 2012 election, Obama will have to defend his record, something he didn't have, or didn't have to do the first time around.
    No he won't. I can't imagine today's left-wing media requiring any such action. They're going to attack the opposition and not leave them time to mention Obama's failed record.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Hope. Change. Unite. You drones... isn't going to work the second time.
    If you are trying to disprove the theory that you don't read what people write, you're doing a horrible job.

    I just called Obama Bush. And you think that makes me an Obama drone?
    What planet do you live on? I've been bashing Dubya for years. Calling Obama a clone of Bush does not suggest that I like Obama or his policies. Especially after I argued how Obama is Bush based on his policies.

    Really. Do you read anything other than the name of the handle you're replying to?
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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No he won't. I can't imagine today's left-wing media requiring any such action. They're going to attack the opposition and not leave them time to mention Obama's failed record.
    A good R candidate will drag the media along.

    Reagan did it, and and R with some fortitude will do the same.

    Obama is weak, flawed and not very good on his feet.

    He's a pinata, waiting to get thrashed.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    If you are trying to disprove the theory that you don't read what people write, you're doing a horrible job.

    I just called Obama Bush. And you think that makes me an Obama drone?
    What planet do you live on? I've been bashing Dubya for years. Calling Obama a clone of Bush does not suggest that I like Obama or his policies. Especially after I argued how Obama is Bush based on his policies.

    Really. Do you read anything other than the name of the handle you're replying to?
    Years? What planet do you live on?
    Can't you count either?
    You've been here 13 months.
    I know you as an IRS expanding, social engineering twit.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    A good R candidate will drag the media along.
    Not any more.

    The 2008 primary season showed several promising Republicans. Since their names weren't Guilliani (liberal, New York), McCain (liberal, turncoat) or Romney (liberal, Taxachussetts), the media didn't cover them.

    And I'm not referring to that jackass Paul.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Reagan did it,
    And the media spent the next thirty years condeming anything and everything related to what Reagan espoused and the media sorely regretted the opportunity they lost to let the USSR beat the United States under Carter.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    and and R with some fortitude will do the same.
    Republicans don't have fortitude.

    Haven't you noticed?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Obama is weak, flawed and not very good on his feet.
    So long as there's electric power to his telepromter, what difference does it make?
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 05-29-09 at 09:20 PM.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Years? What planet do you live on?
    Can't you count either?
    You've been here 13 months.
    Yeah because I never post anywhere else. Apparently you forgot my statements about Navy on WS.

    I know you as an IRS expanding, social engineering twit.
    Heaven forbid funding an agency so that it can collect money from tax cheats and eliminate our deficits. I, unlike you, don't think that tax cheats will be any more honest under no IRS than a fully funded IRS. Heaven forbid favoring bonus depreciation that got us out of the 2001 recession. Not my fault you do not understand such concepts.
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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    His failure to deal with Iran will be his downfall. He talks of extending his hand in friendship, but how far is he willing to go, and will Iran grab his hand and punch him with the other?

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