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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Not really. Scarecrow's statement was about defining liberal Americans as non-Americans. I don't see how your statement adds much to Redress' rebuttal of that.

    Basically let's all recognise that the original point about liberals being non-Americans is bloody stupid and move on.
    I can agree. The first point is a little Reductio ad absurdum. I would rather focus on the socialism aspects. That is less subjective and more results driven. Much more evidenciary.
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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    This is a poll nobody could possibly be authoritarian on an answer.It is gonna bepend on Obamas reaction to unforeseen events.
    The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    This is a poll nobody could possibly be authoritarian on an answer.It is gonna bepend on Obamas reaction to unforeseen events.
    Hush, you are going to hurt some feelings if you keep that up. It's much more fun to doom and gloom about the future.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    That's what stupid people said about Ford when they voted Carter into office.

    The lesson?

    No matter how bad it is, a Democrat in the White House will make it worse if he can.
    And we all saw from Bush that no matter how great the country is doing a Republican in office can turn it into crap.

    Aren't single points of examples fun?
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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That statement would be false.
    It would be false if you didn't understand that the definition of an "American" is a person that doesn't live by stealing from others.

    Now that you know the correct definition of an American, you can admit that, as usual, I'm correct.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    And yet, President Obama didn't have a nuclear war break out during his term, did he?
    Not yet.

    He's only been in office four months.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Not really. Scarecrow's statement was about defining liberal Americans as non-Americans. I don't see how your statement adds much to Redress' rebuttal of that.
    There is no possible rebuttal to that definition.

    It's a friggin' definition, not an argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Basically let's all recognise that the original point about liberals being non-Americans is bloody stupid and move on.
    No, since liberals do not share the values that made America great, since liberals blame America for all the evils of the world, since liberals don't know their asses from their elbows, it's plain liberals aren't Americans.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It would be false if you didn't understand that the definition of an "American" is a person that doesn't live by stealing from others.

    Now that you know the correct definition of an American, you can admit that, as usual, I'm correct.
    Hmmm, does not like like you are right.

    . of or pertaining to the United States of America or its inhabitants: an American citizen.
    2. of or pertaining to North or South America; of the Western Hemisphere: the American continents.
    3. of or pertaining to the aboriginal Indians of North and South America, usually excluding the Eskimos, regarded as being of Asian ancestry and marked generally by reddish to brownish skin, black hair, dark eyes, and prominent cheekbones.
    –noun
    4. a citizen of the United States of America.
    5. a native or inhabitant of the Western Hemisphere.
    6. an Indian of North or South America.
    7. American English.
    8. a steam locomotive having a four-wheeled front truck, four driving wheels, and no rear truck.
    No mention of stealing.

    Course, we as a country do not steal either, so it's all a moot point. I suspect you are referring to taxes,which is not stealing.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    And we all saw from Bush that no matter how great the country is doing a Republican in office can turn it into crap.
    I must have missed that. Which US Republican president's policies turned the nation into crap do to the policies he himself enacted?

    You can't be referring to Bush, the major regulatory and Constitutional failures the caused the banking meltdown were enacted under Democrats, every single one.

    The Iraq war, though I opposed the invasion, was actually a success.

    Overall, Bush failed to kiss European ass, which is the best thing a president can do, and he successfully ignored the efforts of the lunatic left to destroy the American way of life via silly environmental panic responses.

    Overall, we weren't in that bad a shape when he left office, outside of what you have to expect from a mostly liberal presidency, ie, too much spending.

    And you people aren't going to admit that too much spending is the major failure of the US governemnt, not while your Holy Leader has his hands on the cows tits, are you? All his pals are standing out there with their mouths gaping open hoping for a squirt of fresh green juice from the money cow, right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Aren't single points of examples fun?
    Oh. You mean you had only ONE example.

    FDR made the economy worse after Hoover.

    JFK was such an embarassment someone in the US government had him shot, or so many of the more credible story lines go. He was replaced by a flaming socialist that enacted programs that wasted roughly twelve trillion dollars in the forty year period from 1965 or so.

    Clinton's foreign policy was a shambles after Bush, his domestic programs were slapped back in his face by a Democrat dominated Congress, both Hillary Care and Kyoto were rejected soundly by Houses of Congress his party controlled. He dragged us into more unnecessary disparate foreign conflicts than any president before or since. He failed to seize the advantages offered by the collapse of the Evil Empire and his administrations policies led directly to the attacks on September 11, 2001.

    The Repbulicans, not the Democrats, passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, to cite on of the landmark legislative achievements of the last century.

    The Republican president had the vision to push the Soviet Union off their economic cliff. He came into office because the preceding Democrat was cowering in terror before the thought of saying unkind words about the free world's mortal enemy.

    Yeah. You had what could have been a single point example, except I demolished it.

    I have the history of every Democrat that followed a Republican into the White House in the last century, and I've got you Messiah to point to, also.

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    Re: After Eight Years of Obama ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No mention of stealing.
    Funny.

    I mentioned the penchant for theivery the left depends upon.

    How did you miss it?

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