View Poll Results: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer -- How Badly Screwed

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  • Bad -- certainly unConstitutional

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  • A tough break -- but possibly legal

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Thread: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

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    mad A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    This really happened in Melbourne, Florida:

    A LETTER FROM A DODGE DEALER - Nealz Nuze on boortz.com

    According to Neal: The government took over the company and closed some of the dealerships. Mr. Joseph's family owned this business for 40 years and has operated it very successfully. He will get NO compensation for his seized business. He will probably have to declare bankruptcy. Meanwhile, the business will be GIVEN to an undisclosed recipient.

    Here is the question: How badly do you feel Mr. George C. Joseph got screwed?

    And if something like this happened to you, what would you do?
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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Isn't capitalism wonderful? Sorry, but the truth is, if you own a business, you take risks. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes not. Sometimes things happen beyond your control and you are screwed. The government is already doing as much or more than they can or should do. We cannot save every business.

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    fyi Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Isn't capitalism wonderful? Sorry, but the truth is, if you own a business, you take risks. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes not. Sometimes things happen beyond your control and you are screwed. The government is already doing as much or more than they can or should do. We cannot save every business.
    LOL!!! "The government is already doing as much or more as they can or should do?"

    The whole problem is what the government did. What it SHOULD have done is NOTHING. Then the problem would have never happened.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Impossible to say without more details and independent verification of the story. He may be right, he may be misinformed, Chrysler could be in the wrong or the government could, but we have to wait and see.
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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    **** happens. Maybe it is time for the owners to suffer what the workers get to go through all to often.
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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    LOL!!! "The government is already doing as much or more as they can or should do?"

    The whole problem is what the government did. What it SHOULD have done is NOTHING. Then the problem would have never happened.
    So what did the big bad government do?

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Isn't capitalism wonderful? Sorry, but the truth is, if you own a business, you take risks. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes not. Sometimes things happen beyond your control and you are screwed. The government is already doing as much or more than they can or should do. We cannot save every business.
    Did you SERIOUSLY just go "Isn't capitalism wonderful" to a situation where the GOVERNMENT forced a private enterprises hand to close up their shops?

    Really?

    Cause, for some reason, government control of private enterprise doesn't strike me as, oh I don't know, capitalism.
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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    The whole problem is what the government did. What it SHOULD have done is NOTHING. Then the problem would have never happened.
    Would you care to provide proof of that assertion?

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Did you SERIOUSLY just go "Isn't capitalism wonderful" to a situation where the GOVERNMENT forced a private enterprises hand to close up their shops?

    Really?

    Cause, for some reason, government control of private enterprise doesn't strike me as, oh I don't know, capitalism.
    No where in the letter that I see(I could have missed it, too lazy to go back and double check now) did it say that Chrysler was told that they had to shut his dealership down. The reason that this happened is Chrysler is doing poorly, which is not the governments fault. What the government has been doing, rightly or wrongly(and I am of divided mind on it) is trying to keep Chrysler alive.

    Let's play a quick game. What would have happened in presidents Bush and Obama had decided the auto industries where on their own. Would this guy have lost his dealership or not? Impossible to know for sure, but what is your guess. I would suspect not.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Did you SERIOUSLY just go "Isn't capitalism wonderful" to a situation where the GOVERNMENT forced a private enterprises hand to close up their shops?
    Really?
    Yes... and I find the "shi'ite happens" response rather ironic.

    Your job was outsourced. Shi'ite happens.
    Your job was downsized. Shi'ite happens.
    Your 401k collapsed. Shi'ite happens.

    Oh, I forgot... those things are different.

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