View Poll Results: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer -- How Badly Screwed

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  • Absolutely horrible -- unthinkable in the US

    7 50.00%
  • Really bad -- similar to extreme eminent domain seizures

    0 0%
  • Bad -- certainly unConstitutional

    1 7.14%
  • A tough break -- but possibly legal

    3 21.43%
  • An expected risk of a franchisee

    1 7.14%
  • It was probably written in his contract

    1 7.14%
  • Other -- specify

    1 7.14%
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Thread: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
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    Let's play a quick game. What would have happened in presidents Bush and Obama had decided the auto industries where on their own. Would this guy have lost his dealership or not? Impossible to know for sure, but what is your guess. I would suspect not.
    As long as the manufacturer stayed in business, he probably would have been OK -- obviously, a dealership can be very profitable, even if the manufacturer is not.

    That said, the government -should- have let the automakers fend for themselves -- in the long run, the consumers win.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    The real question is where is it written in the Constitution that the Government has the authority to do this?

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    As long as the manufacturer stayed in business, he probably would have been OK -- obviously, a dealership can be very profitable, even if the manufacturer is not.

    That said, the government -should- have let the automakers fend for themselves -- in the long run, the consumers win.
    I guess I do not understand why the dealership was closed then. If it was profitable and making money for both Chrysler and the owner, by close it. If it was not, then it is a victim of the economy, not the administrator.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    This really happened in Melbourne, Florida:

    A LETTER FROM A DODGE DEALER - Nealz Nuze on boortz.com

    According to Neal: The government took over the company and closed some of the dealerships. Mr. Joseph's family owned this business for 40 years and has operated it very successfully. He will get NO compensation for his seized business. He will probably have to declare bankruptcy. Meanwhile, the business will be GIVEN to an undisclosed recipient.

    Here is the question: How badly do you feel Mr. George C. Joseph got screwed?

    And if something like this happened to you, what would you do?
    I'd take it to the local news first, and I can think of a few biased pundits who would love some ammo to smear the Pres with.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I guess I do not understand why the dealership was closed then. If it was profitable and making money for both Chrysler and the owner, by close it. If it was not, then it is a victim of the economy, not the administrator.
    Chrysler had to lower their margin so that the dealership could stay in business and compete with the Chrysler dealership down the street.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    This really happened in Melbourne, Florida:

    A LETTER FROM A DODGE DEALER - Nealz Nuze on boortz.com

    According to Neal: The government took over the company and closed some of the dealerships. Mr. Joseph's family owned this business for 40 years and has operated it very successfully. He will get NO compensation for his seized business. He will probably have to declare bankruptcy. Meanwhile, the business will be GIVEN to an undisclosed recipient.

    Here is the question: How badly do you feel Mr. George C. Joseph got screwed?

    And if something like this happened to you, what would you do?
    There must be more to this than what this gentleman is divulging..
    I do believe that our government would not ....steal a man's business, without provocation....
    He could go to the newspapers...if any exist.....

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Doesn't say what the franchise agreement his old man purchased, therefore can't form an opinion.

    Also, what does 'give to someone else' mean?

    All that's visible is this guy's complaint.

    Since Chrysler is going bankrupt, what did he expect? Chrysler was going bankrupt without the government's interference.

    The only thing the government's interference achieved was a waste of my tax dollars on a car company whose products I've never bought and was never going to.
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 05-22-09 at 11:59 AM.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    There must be more to this than what this gentleman is divulging..
    I do believe that our government would not ....steal a man's business, without provocation....
    He could go to the newspapers...if any exist.....
    Sure the government would.

    That's the net upshot of Kelo vs New London.

    If the government can steal your home, it can certainly steal your business.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    He will get NO compensation for his seized business. ... Meanwhile, the business will be GIVEN to an undisclosed recipient.
    His franchise is being taken away, not his business. It's not being taken by the govt either as you seem to have implied and others have inferred.

    His letter made me less sympathetic to his cause.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: A Letter from a Dodge Dealer

    Did the envelope survive the journey?

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