View Poll Results: After Obama, Who should represent the Democrat Party?

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  • Mark Warner

    2 10.00%
  • Tim Kaine

    1 5.00%
  • Harold Ford, Jr

    1 5.00%
  • Evan Bayh

    0 0%
  • Dennis Kucinich

    4 20.00%
  • Mike Gravel

    3 15.00%
  • Joe Biden

    1 5.00%
  • Hillary Clinton

    7 35.00%
  • Jim Webb

    1 5.00%
  • Jennifer Granholm

    0 0%
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Thread: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    Which Democrat leaders will be the lifeblood of the Democrat Party after Obama is done serving his terms as President? Who represents the direction you'd like to see the Democrat Party take? And Why?
    lol bored of Barack already? No patience with you Americans, is there.
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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    lol bored of Barack already? No patience with you Americans, is there.
    Obama scares the living **** out of me. He sounds like the kids I grew up with. And all my friends and I were Marxists. And not the pussy pacifist Marxists, but the kind that believed in the use of force and the full power of the State. Which, as we figured, was the only way to overcome the greed that would serve as a resistance. That said, I am searching for hope. I'm searching for Democrats that would rather have Mark Warner, or Tim Kaine, or Harold Ford, Jr in office than Obama. I want Infrastructure Democrats, as I've come to understand them. Not Welfare junkies. Democrats that do things, build things, care about business, liberty, efficiency, efficacy.

    I want to believe that Democrats are still reasonable.
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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    Tim Kaine and FDR? I think Kaine is much more moderate and sensible.
    He is more moderate, but has a great grasp on how to manuever sensibly and rally the country. What, you think FDR was a raging liberal?

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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    Obama scares the living **** out of me. He sounds like the kids I grew up with. And all my friends and I were Marxists. And not the pussy pacifist Marxists, but the kind that believed in the use of force and the full power of the State. Which, as we figured, was the only way to overcome the greed that would serve as a resistance. That said, I am searching for hope. I'm searching for Democrats that would rather have Mark Warner, or Tim Kaine, or Harold Ford, Jr in office than Obama. I want Infrastructure Democrats, as I've come to understand them. Not Welfare junkies. Democrats that do things, build things, care about business, liberty, efficiency, efficacy.

    I want to believe that Democrats are still reasonable.
    My point exactly with FDR!

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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    Gravel by far. I want to know exactly what he meant by this:

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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    I like Jim Webb. He's both a military man and somebody who actually saw combat instead of dressing up to disguise the fact that they didn't. He was trusted by Reagan enough to be Secretary of the Navy which IMO gives him enough foreign policy experience to do away with any kind of complaints by Republican hawks. I'm with him on most positions except a few minor details.
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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    He is more moderate, but has a great grasp on how to manuever sensibly and rally the country. What, you think FDR was a raging liberal?
    FDR was a Marxist in nearly every aspect. However, like the vast majority of modern Marxist, he didn't believe in the functionality of Socialism. I would argue that FDR is the Father of modern Liberalism, in practice. I certainly don't think that Roosevelt was any less liberal than President Johnson or Carter or Obama.
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    Re: Life in America After 8 Years of Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I like Jim Webb. He's both a military man and somebody who actually saw combat instead of dressing up to disguise the fact that they didn't. He was trusted by Reagan enough to be Secretary of the Navy which IMO gives him enough foreign policy experience to do away with any kind of complaints by Republican hawks. I'm with him on most positions except a few minor details.
    Jim Webb is an extraordinary man, but he rubs me the wrong way. I don't know. Maybe I'm still annoyed by the nasty campaign against George Allen, who I thought did an excellent job representing Virginia. I had already moved to North Carolina in 2006, so I didn't get to vote on the matter. Even though I've never really warmed up to Webb, no one can argue that he is anything but distinguished, experienced, and fit for office.
    There is nothing more dangerous to the liberty of Man than a Government or a Religion seizing upon the strings of an overdeveloped herd instinct amongst the people.

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