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  • Adolf Hitler

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  • Heinrich Himmler

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  • Benito Mussolini

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  • Hirohito

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  • Hideki Tojo

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  • Ion Antonescu

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  • Philippe Pétain

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  • Ugo Cavallero

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    Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader in the 1940s? Which man played the most significant role in the War and in shaping the future of Authoritarian Regimes?
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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader in the 1940s? Which man played the most significant role in the War and in shaping the future of Authoritarian Regimes?
    IMHO, the Greatest Axis Leader(s) would be the junior/field officers within the Wehrmacht, that did so well against to many, with so little.

    But, if the question is "Which man played the most significant role in the War..."
    Hitler. Hands down.

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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    IMHO, the Greatest Axis Leader(s) would be the junior/field officers within the Wehrmacht, that did so well against to many, with so little.

    But, if the question is "Which man played the most significant role in the War..."
    Hitler. Hands down.
    Hitler was a brilliant domestic politician, just like FDR and Stalin. He had invigorated the public, obfuscated his policies, and moved forward quickly and without hesitation. Only Churchhill acted cautiously and prudently, only, the public wasn't really behind him at first. He had to deal with those loyal to Chamberlain.
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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    Hitler was a brilliant domestic politician, just like FDR and Stalin. He had invigorated the public, obfuscated his policies, and moved forward quickly and without hesitation. Only Churchhill acted cautiously and prudently, only, the public wasn't really behind him at first. He had to deal with those loyal to Chamberlain.
    I looked more at the pert of the question I quoted.
    WW2 in Europe came about out of little more than Hitler's will to go to war -- there was no greater driving force than he.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 05-21-09 at 01:26 PM.

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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    The most important? Thats tough. You can never downplay Hitler's significance, but it was Hirohito who eventually woke the sleeping giant, and I think thats pretty important. Without it, do we even get inlvolved in WWII until the Axis powers hold all of Europe? However, the Japanese empire chose to attack Pearl Harbor, after we placed an embargo on them when they joined the Axis powers. I am not really aware of the Germanic/Japanese relationship in WWII and how it related the joining with the Axis. If Hitler persuaded the Japanese to join the Axis powers, I'd clearly give him the edge then. But the atrocities the Japanese rent across the Pacific they had conquered were no less gruesome than what the Germans did. People forget that...
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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Based on the list, I had to go Hirahito, who really was brilliant except for one big mistake. If the Japanese had not bombed Pearl harbor, things would be a whole lot different today I suspect. We would have come into the war eventually, but Japan might have ended up with a good negotiating position with a large portion of Asia.

    I would also kinda collectively vote for the young german tank officers, who read Liddell Hart's books on tank warfare, learned it, and used it to incredible advantage. I find it painfully ironic that the germans learned more from a british man than the british did.

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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Based on the list, I had to go Hirahito, who really was brilliant except for one big mistake. If the Japanese had not bombed Pearl harbor, things would be a whole lot different today I suspect. We would have come into the war eventually, but Japan might have ended up with a good negotiating position with a large portion of Asia.
    A big mistake for the Japanese was to not bomb the oil tanks in Pearl Harbor.

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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    I would have to go with Himmler, hands down. When you look at the history of events in WW2, you see that Himmler was constantly there feeding into Hitler's insanity. Himmler was responsible for a lot of the archetypal imagery and mythology that went into fueling the furor of the SS, etc.

    Hitler was a great orator and drving political force but I have always viewed Himmler as the main architect of the more extreme intricacies of the Nazi party.

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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader in the 1940s? Which man played the most significant role in the War and in shaping the future of Authoritarian Regimes?
    Himmler was the fist behind Hitler, and without hime the Reich would have fallen very quickly. I think Himmler guided Hitler on what policies to enact, and once given the ok was quick to move.

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    Re: Who Was The Most Important AXIS Leader?

    Although I think that Himmler was the driving force behind a lot of what the Nazi's did, without Hitler's oratory and propaganda skills, none of it would have happened. Hitler by two lengths.
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