View Poll Results: What Happens Next?

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  • Election Results are Challenged in Court and the Will of the Voters is Overturned.

    2 6.45%
  • The Messiah Farts Out a "Miracle" and Unlimited Federal Money Flows to Sacramento

    6 19.35%
  • The Same People Get Re-Elected, Again.

    11 35.48%
  • Whatever Happens, The Taxpayer Gets Screwed

    24 77.42%
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Thread: What Happens to California Now?

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Look at how many morons voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. You had a point?
    They saved us from Gore and the Gigolo, didn't they? So they had to have something on the ball.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    One idea that's kicking around the web is to split California into smaller states with more manageable economies and politics, and write new constitutions for all of them. Here's one such proposal:

    breakingviews | California breakup

    Obviously the politics of this would be incredibly difficult, if not impossible. But what do you guys think about the merits of the idea?

    Can't see any reason for that, it won't fix the issue of rampant socialism destroying the state, and merely generate yet more layers of government, not to mention more idiot senators.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Actually private school where I was class valedictorian, plus having degrees in computer science and mathematics. But that doesn't mean anything because it disagrees with you, right?
    So you have toilet paper. I don't care. I taught myself calculus, so it's not like I consider a degree in mathematics anything to respect.

    Since you found the math presented to you overly complicated, what you clearly failed to learn was the ability to apply your peices of paper to the resolution of real world problems.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    A well timed eathquake and more food for conspiracy theorists.
    Holy **** I was thinking the same thing

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey View Post
    Hi Cripper looks like your right again,DOG EAT DOG,haha,never mind m8 look
    after your self,y not,also u have a good turn of English,better than me.

    i should study Rabbie burns or Shakespeare trying my best for U.

    all the best to U and your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey View Post
    Holy **** I was thinking the same thing

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Can't see any reason for that, it won't fix the issue of rampant socialism destroying the state,
    One of the problems with California is that it's so big. Splitting it up would divide it into more manageable economic chunks. California has more people than many European countries, all of which are divided into smaller subunits which have varying degrees of control over themselves. But California doesn't really have any subunits (other than individual counties).

    The idea is that if it were split up and new constitutions were written for each new state, then each part could pursue the economic policies that it wanted to. And none of them could possibly be considered "too big to fail."

    As for "rampant socialism destroying the state," if the new states were allowed to go their own way independent of each other, some of them would choose more business-friendly policies. And the states that would continue borrow-and-spend policies would at least confine their economic problems to a smaller region of the country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    and merely generate yet more layers of government, not to mention more idiot senators.
    The total number of senators is not really an issue. Going from 100 to, say, 106 senators would not really affect the way that the Senate functions. If you're concerned about the party affiliation of the senators, that would also be a wash. If the state was divided up into four regions, the Senate split would probably be roughly 5-3 in favor of Democrats...so the partisan balance of power would be unchanged.

    Just an idea though. I don't think it could ever actually happen.
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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    They saved us from Gore and the Gigolo, didn't they? So they had to have something on the ball.
    Just like Obama saved us from McCain and the MILF. Still waiting for your point.
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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Since you found the math presented to you overly complicated, what you clearly failed to learn was the ability to apply your peices of paper to the resolution of real world problems.
    I'm still waiting for you to actually present the problem, something you've entirely failed to do. How do five illegal kids, just the kids, not their parents, present additional financial costs to a school. Go ahead, spell it out for us all, show us you're not just posturing, back your claim up or admit to the class that you're just a right-wing blowhard.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    How would all of you anti-Bailout California people feel about California refusing to continue to help bailout the rest of the country? It would go like this: California passes an (admittedly) illegal law stating that California residents can withhold payment of 20% of their federal taxes due, as long as they donate the money to the California government.

    I'm completely uninterested (as is probably everyone else) in the obvious legal difficulties California residents would face in utilizing the option, etc. I am interested in whether it would be fair for California residents to take such a stance.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    How would all of you anti-Bailout California people feel about California refusing to continue to help bailout the rest of the country? It would go like this: California passes an (admittedly) illegal law stating that California residents can withhold payment of 20% of their federal taxes due, as long as they donate the money to the California government.

    I'm completely uninterested (as is probably everyone else) in the obvious legal difficulties California residents would face in utilizing the option, etc. I am interested in whether it would be fair for California residents to take such a stance.
    I say go for it. California takes more federal money than it sends to DC in taxes, so if we stop the flow of money in both directions the rest of the country comes out ahead.

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