View Poll Results: What Happens Next?

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  • Election Results are Challenged in Court and the Will of the Voters is Overturned.

    2 6.45%
  • The Messiah Farts Out a "Miracle" and Unlimited Federal Money Flows to Sacramento

    6 19.35%
  • The Same People Get Re-Elected, Again.

    11 35.48%
  • Whatever Happens, The Taxpayer Gets Screwed

    24 77.42%
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Thread: What Happens to California Now?

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Your messiah crap may make people not want to participate in your poll.


    I say all of the above. They want this to pass and they are desperate to pass it. So they'll attempt to do what ever they can to ignore the will of the voters instead of exercising common sense by cutting non essential programs.Although voters are to blame for this mess in Commiefornia since they helped create it.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    They're gonna get helped out by Obama, even though federal dollars shouldn't go to states.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    For all of the red staters’ bitching and moaning about California and having to pay taxes and how horrible welfare is, most of the solidly red states* receive more from the federal government than they contribute to the federal government.

    For fiscal year 2005, the latest year for which I was able to find figures, for every $1 that Repugnican Gov. Haley Barbour’s state of Mississippi gave the federal government, it received $2.02 from the federal government in return. A 202 percent return ain’t bad! Repugnican Gov. Sarah Palin-Quayle’s Alaska? $1.84 — you betcha! Repugnican Gov. Bobby Jindal’s Louisiana? $1.78. Yet all three of these Repugnican governors have balked at accepting even more money for their states from the federal government — not because their states hate to receive federal money, obviously, but apparently because it’s Democratic President Barack Obama, the nation’s first black president, who is offering it.

    The list goes on: In 2005 West Virginia got back $1.76 for every $1 that it contributed. North Dakota: $1.68. Alabama: $1.66. South Dakota: $1.53. Kentucky and Virginia: $1.51. Montana: $1.47. Arkansas: $1.41. Oklahoma: $1.36. South Carolina (whose Repugnican governor also has balked at accepting even more federal money for his state): $1.35. Missouri: $1.32. Tennessee: $1.27. Idaho: $1.21. Repugnican presidential wannabe John McCainosaurus’ Arizona: $1.19. Kansas: $1.12. Wyoming: $1.11. Nebraska: $1.10. Utah: $1.07. Georgia: $1.01.

    California gets .80 for every dollar that each resident pays in FIC
    Okay, but that is not the issue.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    A state government can become insolvent.

    The federal government cannot.

    The feds own the money printing presses.
    So you are saying that a revolution is in order?
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I was referring to SouthernDemocrat, a DP member. About 90% of his posts sound like the one you just made.

    You do know what sock puppet means, doncha?

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    It's a trap! Don't say you don't know what a sock puppet is! That is exactly what SouthernDemocrat would say!
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Tell that to Argentina, Iceland, Hungary, and Pakistan. Nations can and do go bankrupt. I think that bailing out California has the potential to seriously damage the credit rating of the United States (depending on how much cash they actually need, which I don't think has been determined yet). It should be avoided, unless it would result in an Uber-Lehman cascade where all of the banks who have California debt collapse as well.

    Californians just voted not to raise their own taxes to prevent their impending bankruptcy...it would hardly be fair to expect the other 49 states to do so. I'd rather let California reap what it sows, if at all possible.
    We Californians sent a message that spending needs to experience drastic cuts, and that there is so much waste that it actually unites disparate ideologies under the idea that enough is enough.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    What would you budget cutters take out of the budget, specifically, to balance the budget without raising taxes? I would like to see someone show me how to balance the budget, with the actual numbers, without a tax raise.
    Stop financing illegal immigration, cut off the unions from the bargaining table for a while, and cut unnecessary programs.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm no expert on California politics, since I've never lived there. But Schwarzenegger's proposed cuts seem reasonable to me. They won't close the gap by themselves, but they're a good start. According to Wikipedia:

    The last $16.5 billion is to be derived from spending cuts:

    * $5.2 billion cut to K-12 education and community colleges
    * $1.7 billion by furloughing state employees 2 days a month until June 30, 2010
    * $1.4 billion by reducing monthly grants to federal minimum for low-income aged, blind and disabled on Supplemental Security Income / State Supplemental Program and eliminating payments to recent immigrants
    * $1.1 billion from CalWORKS welfare programs
    * $788 million to the Department of Corrections and Rehibilitation by eliminating parole supervisions for all but those who have committed serious, violent or sexual crimes and reducing the medical budget by 10%
    * $742 million to Medi-Cal by eliminating certain treatments
    * $692 million by cutting UC and CSU budgets by 10%
    * $459 million by eliminating general purpose grants to local transit agencies
    * $473 million by reducing state payments for In-Home Supportive Services health workers
    * $422.8 million to the Department of Developmental Services
    * $275 million by eliminating the state First Five Commission
    * $226 million by diverting money set aside in Prop 63 for mental health services
    * $163.4 million by continuing through June 2010 "one-time" cuts in current budgets for state couts
    * $150 million by eliminting or consolidating varitey of state entities including Integrated Waste Management Board and the California Conservation Corps
    * $87 million by making various changes to the Cal Grant program including elimination of new grants awarded on the basis of competition
    * $43.2 million by cutting Legislature's budget 10% and eliminating cost-of-living increase
    * $37.8 million by eliminating food stamps for legal immigrants not eligible for federal assistance.


    Budget cuts suck, but sometimes they're necessary.
    That is the governor on Thursday. Wait until Friday. He is saying everything and nothing.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Your messiah crap may make people not want to participate in your poll.


    I say all of the above. They want this to pass and they are desperate to pass it. So they'll attempt to do what ever they can to ignore the will of the voters instead of exercising common sense by cutting non essential programs.Although voters are to blame for this mess in Commiefornia since they helped create it.
    More like the lack of true alternatives make people not want to participate in the poll.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: What Happens to California Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    Not exactly.


    This SouthernDemocrat must be a genuius.
    In his own mind, but then he is from AR, so .....

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