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  • Marijuana

    67 81.71%
  • Cocaine

    36 43.90%
  • LSD

    38 46.34%
  • Meth

    30 36.59%
  • Prescription drugs

    33 40.24%
  • Psychedelic mushrooms

    44 53.66%
  • Ecstasy

    35 42.68%
  • Opium

    38 46.34%
  • other

    28 34.15%
  • None of the above

    14 17.07%
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I'm not arguing against legalisation per se, just the whole idea and blanket statements that it is their body and they can do what they want so therefore it would be fine if a quarter or third of people had raging heroin addictions.
    Right, but your statement is not based on any facts. There's no factual data(feel free to prove me wrong) that indicates anything like this would occur. I can certainly tell you that every person I have asked the "if Meth were legal, would you do it?" question has said "no". Therefore, there's hardly any reason to entertain your hypothetical situation unless you can somehow show me that it has merit.

    What you are essentially saying is that if methamphetamine were legal, we COULD have a quarter or third of the population with an addiction to a hard drug. Hell, by that logic we should outlaw all toxic substances. Can't have everyone waking up in the morning and eating chlorine tablets, now can we? But it COULD happen.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Right, but your statement is not based on any facts. There's no factual data(feel free to prove me wrong) that indicates anything like this would occur. I can certainly tell you that every person I have asked the "if Meth were legal, would you do it?" question has said "no". Therefore, there's hardly any reason to entertain your hypothetical situation unless you can somehow show me that it has merit.
    That was not the point. I was objecting to the attitude not legalisation. Come on, let's not spend ages going on about this.

    What you are essentially saying is that if methamphetamine were legal, we COULD have a quarter or third of the population with an addiction to a hard drug.:
    No I did not say that, I said that the attitude that it is your body and hence it is completely fine to shoot up meth leads to the idea that the said situation would be okay. I did not say it was likely, I was just reiterating a missed point among some more atomistically individualist libertarians that individual liberty and individualism while certainly being very important can only come about and be sustainable through a healthy, stable society and the small-scale associations that must make it up.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    That was not the point. I was objecting to the attitude not legalisation. Come on, let's not spend ages going on about this.

    No I did not say that, I said that the attitude that it is your body and hence it is completely fine to shoot up meth leads to the idea that the said situation would be okay. I did not say it was likely, I was just reiterating a missed point among some more atomistically individualist libertarians that individual liberty and individualism while certainly being very important can only come about and we sustainable through a healthy, stable society and the small-scale associations that must make it up.
    Well then I apologize for misunderstanding your post.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    I think it would be pretty hard to determine what we should do all at once with a theoretical situation.

    After looking at alcohol prohibition, we should legalize weed and just see what happens.

    If all goes well, then we can legalize more, but we should go one step at a time.


    Since I am against legalizing everything, that means there is most likely a line somewhere. I don't think we can determine where that line is from our perspective.
    Last edited by nerv14; 05-18-09 at 08:39 PM.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I think it would be pretty hard to determine what we should do all at once with a theoretical situation.

    After looking at alcohol prohibition, we should legalize weed and just see what happens.

    If all goes well, then we can legalize more, but we should go one step at a time.
    That has always struck me as the best solution. Baby steps. Then detailed analysis can be done over time and we can get some nice statistics to base future decisions off of.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I recently had a friend accidentally OD on some very powerful prescription painkiller so I do need for some regulation of these very powerful painkillers.
    Actually prescription pain killers have acetaminophen (APAP) as a filler add to them which can be lethal to the liver in large amounts, like say 5 pills. While it is possible to OD on opiates you are going to die several times over due to APAP induced liver failure before the opiates slow your breathing to a halt. (Which is how opiates kill you) APAP is just added as a deterrent against recreational use.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    Actually prescription pain killers have acetaminophen (APAP) as a filler add to them which can be lethal to the liver in large amounts, like say 5 pills. While it is possible to OD on opiates you are going to die several times over due to APAP induced liver failure before the opiates slow your breathing to a halt. (Which is how opiates kill you) APAP is just added as a deterrent against recreational use.
    It can be taken out I believe quite easily though.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    This redefines "recreational" use.
    The use of drugs is a slow suicide, IMO, also, those who use drugs should commit a faster suicide....who needs them ??.... Have these drug users ever thought about their impact on American society, or on their parents ?
    I doubt it...they are too self-centered...
    And , they can ingest all the psychedelic mushrooms they want...

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This redefines "recreational" use.
    The use of drugs is a slow suicide, IMO, also, those who use drugs should commit a faster suicide....who needs them ??.... Have these drug users ever thought about their impact on American society, or on their parents ?
    I doubt it...they are too self-centered...
    And , they can ingest all the psychedelic mushrooms they want...
    Wow, thanks "Blatant Generalization Guy".
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    It can be taken out I believe quite easily though.
    Yeah, I am quite aware of that, I was just informing the OP that it far more likely that it was the APAP that killed his friend than the opiates. And the APAP is only an ingredient because of prohibition and psychotic drug war strategies.

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