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  • Marijuana

    67 81.71%
  • Cocaine

    36 43.90%
  • LSD

    38 46.34%
  • Meth

    30 36.59%
  • Prescription drugs

    33 40.24%
  • Psychedelic mushrooms

    44 53.66%
  • Ecstasy

    35 42.68%
  • Opium

    38 46.34%
  • other

    28 34.15%
  • None of the above

    14 17.07%
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I guess the only good answer is to study other countries that have done it. Here's the first link I found:

    Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work? - TIME

    This relates to Portugal in says in part:

    The paper, published by Cato in April, found that in the five years after personal possession was decriminalized, illegal drug use among teens in Portugal declined and rates of new HIV infections caused by sharing of dirty needles dropped, while the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled.

    (I view the increase in people seeking treatment as a positive effect)



    Any other such links? (pro or con)
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    For those who are pro-drug legalization:

    Let's say there is a drug that has a 100% fatality rate. If you take it, you get temendously high, after which you always die. Obviously, since all the users are dead its use cannot be banned. My question is, would you support the legalization of the sale of this drug?

    Don't mean to hijack the thread, just curious.
    Sure. If someone wants to kill him or herself, who am I to tell them that they are not allowed to do so? It's not my body, not my choice.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Sure. If someone wants to kill him or herself, who am I to tell them that they are not allowed to do so? It's not my body, not my choice.
    I think the families of those who took the theoretical drug might disagree.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Statements like that are why the Loosertarians never have a viable presidential nominee.
    As much as I agree with the intention of this post, blanket statements that you can put whatever you like in your body that act as if 30% of the population being meth or heroin addicts would be fine and dandy are silly, but the way you put it makes it very ironic; as if that statement is going to win over many of the more diehard, "its their body", libertarians.

    Somehow calling them loosertarians doesn't seem likely to win them over imho.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Emotion aside, all of those things are addictions. They are easily comparable. I will certainly agree that drug addiction is far more lethal and important than a shopping addiction, but any one of those things I mentioned could destroy lives.
    Thought experiment: select 2000 random people. Have 1000 gamble and the other 1000 use meth.

    1) How many more people do you think will be addicted to meth that gambling?

    2) Out of those addicted, how many more of the meth users lives were significantly negatively affected as compared to the gamblers?
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I think the families of those who took the theoretical drug might disagree.
    Sure. But how is this any different than a normal suicide? Do you think the families of suicide victims think that they made a good choice? Banning drugs isn't going to stop people from making poor decisions.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Thought experiment: select 2000 random people. Have 1000 gamble and the other 1000 use meth.

    1) How many more people do you think will be addicted to meth that gambling?

    2) Out of those addicted, how many more of the meth users lives were significantly negatively affected as compared to the gamblers?
    I said I agreed with you that drug abuse was far more dangerous...
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Sure. If someone wants to kill him or herself, who am I to tell them that they are not allowed to do so? It's not my body, not my choice.
    Individual liberty can only come about in a stable, healthy society. I'm not saying legalised drugs would do it but say it did create a situation where a quarter or a third of people were hooked on hard drugs then that would massively damaging for society and the small-scale associations that help to make a healthy, stable society like family and community and it would not only endanger social happiness but individual liberty itself by degrading the society and associations it relies upon.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Individual liberty can only come about in a stable, healthy society. I'm not saying legalised drugs would do it but say it did create a situation where a quarter or a third of people were hooked on hard drugs then that would massively damaging for society and the small-scale associations that help to make a healthy, stable society like family and community and it would not only endanger social happiness but individual liberty itself by degrading the society and associations it relies upon.
    You are assuming that, upon legalization, people will be flocking in droves to shoot heroin or insufflate methamphetamine. If you research Prohibition, you will find that alcohol consumption increased as did alcohol consumption by children. Bartenders during Prohibition, like drug dealers today, obviously did not card when everyone was partaking of alcohol illegally.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    You are assuming that, upon legalization, people will be flocking in droves to shoot heroin or insufflate methamphetamine. If you research Prohibition, you will find that alcohol consumption increased as did alcohol consumption by children. Bartenders during Prohibition, like drug dealers today, obviously did not card when everyone was partaking of alcohol illegally.
    Actually I wasn't mate, I said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    Individual liberty can only come about in a stable, healthy society.I'm not saying legalised drugs would do it
    but say it did create a situation where a quarter or a third of people were hooked on hard drugs then that would massively damaging for society....
    I'm not arguing against legalisation per se, just the whole idea and blanket statements that it is their body and they can do what they want so therefore it would be fine if a quarter or third of people had raging heroin addictions.

    I'm against hard drugs legislation because I don't want them to be developed by corporations and gov'ts mostly and I just don't think it is wise to give the social all clear to such behaviour as meth addictions.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 05-18-09 at 08:16 PM.
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