View Poll Results: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

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  • Marijuana

    67 81.71%
  • Cocaine

    36 43.90%
  • LSD

    38 46.34%
  • Meth

    30 36.59%
  • Prescription drugs

    33 40.24%
  • Psychedelic mushrooms

    44 53.66%
  • Ecstasy

    35 42.68%
  • Opium

    38 46.34%
  • other

    28 34.15%
  • None of the above

    14 17.07%
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Contrary to what you may think, drugs being illegal does deter people from using them...
    BS. The world's foremost experts on the subject cannot find such a correlation. What gives you such clairvoyance that you somehow know about a connection that they don't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    The amount the drug is used, both by people who already use it and those who pick it up because it is legalized, will make it abundantly more available.
    Until you can show that people will "pick it up" when legalized, you have nothing but your own personal assumptions about people you don't know, unsupported and even arguably refuted by all the relevant studies and data on the subject.

    Are YOU going to go out and start shooting up heroin when it's legalized? No? I didn't think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Its nonsense to think that legalizing a drug will not have any effect on its availability.
    It's nonsense to think that availability = use when there is no data at all to support that myth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Not everyone is educated on the effects of such harmful substances...
    Yes, that's definitely part of the problem. You solve a problem by addressing it, not by using it as leverage to justify creating more problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Really, I know plenty of people who would pick it up because they knew they had no risk with the law.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post

    The amount the drug is used, both by people who already use it and those who pick it up because it is legalized, will make it abundantly more available.
    Drugs are already abundantly available

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Really, I know plenty of people who would pick it up because they knew they had no risk with the law.
    In my seven years of working at a rehab clinic I eventually treated a few thousand patients. Not one of them ever said they stopped, or were dissueded from doing drugs because it's against the law.

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    fyi Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I did

    The Loosertarian stance to legalize all drugs has cost them a lot of support from Conservatives and moderate Democrats. The same goes with it's position on prostitution, but this thread isn't about prostitution. When the Loosertarian party chooses to back down from it's radical leanings it will find itself in a position to take the power it has always wanted.
    Why don't you try to understand why the LP is so strong on legalizing drugs? It is NOT because they want to use or sell them. It IS because a free market is far superior than one run by government. We had that in 1900. Drug abuse was practically nonexistant. Ditto for drug CRIME.

    Personally, I would never want to use these drugs except for legitimate medical purposes. But I am FED UP with our prisons being horribly overcrowded with extremist laws against actions that have no legitimate victims, billions of taxes being wasted for drug "wars," and dangerous criminals being created because of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Is drug legalization a show-stopper for you, or is your assessment merely strategic in nature?

    Would you ever vote for a candidate who supported drug legalization? Why or why not?
    Of course I would. Read my comment above.


    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Rare agreement with you but you are right on!
    (& it's time to legalize prostitution & gambling too)

    Government has no business trying to operate like a church!...Stay out of victimless moral questions entirely!
    You are exactly right. Government is regulating morality as if it was a church. We are supposed to have an absolute SEPARATION of church and state.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you keep saying mass produced but demand will dry up when other drugs are legal. Do you envision advertising meth and doing special giveaways to increase demand just so it becomes profitable to produce in mass?
    Who cares if demand for meth increases if it's legalized?

    You have completely failed to establish your basis for controlling it.

    How about if you start working on that project sometime soon, huh?

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    The fact that the drug is available and not illegal. Contrary to what you may think, drugs being illegal does deter people from using them... and if it doesn't, the law will eventually find them. They may have an endless supply, but there is a very scant chance that they can sustain their habit without being caught by law enforcement.

    The amount the drug is used, both by people who already use it and those who pick it up because it is legalized, will make it abundantly more available. Its nonsense to think that legalizing a drug will not have any effect on its availability. Really, I know plenty of people who would pick it up because they knew they had no risk with the law.
    So what?

    That is their business, and not yours, correct?

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Its really not that simple. Not everyone is educated on the effects of such harmful substances... Those who are and choose to use it are a harm to society, and allowing them to use such substances is a harm to everyone around them.
    Again, so what? Are you their mother?

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Who cares if demand for meth increases if it's legalized?

    You have completely failed to establish your basis for controlling it.

    How about if you start working on that project sometime soon, huh?
    way to completely misunderstand the point of the person you are arguing with.

    I said demand would go down, not up.

    unless you start making sense and showing even the smallest signs of reading comprehension, you aren't part of my dialogue on this matter.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    way to completely misunderstand the point of the person you are arguing with.
    Oh, is that what you're trying to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I said demand would go down, not up.
    Not the question asked in the post you quoted, also, since the free market will cause the price to go down, not to mention the termination of the jail-related costs of possession and use, almost all drug use can be expected to demonstrate at least temporary spike-ups in the period immediately following de-criminalization.

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    unless you start making sense and showing even the smallest signs of reading comprehension, you aren't part of my dialogue on this matter.
    It's not my problem you refuse to see sense in my posts.

    Again, what business is it of yours if someone not you decides to put drugs in their body, and from what Constitutional citation does the Federal government draw it's authority to violate those people's Ninth Amendment rights?

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Again, what business is it of yours if someone not you decides to put drugs in their body, and from what Constitutional citation does the Federal government draw it's authority to violate those people's Ninth Amendment rights?
    The question does not ask if the federal government makes it illegal, but merely which should be legal.

    I'm all for allowing all 50 states to ban meth/allow it independently.

    As for what business is it of mine? The same business I have in not allowing an individual to possess radioactive material.

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