View Poll Results: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

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  • Marijuana

    67 81.71%
  • Cocaine

    36 43.90%
  • LSD

    38 46.34%
  • Meth

    30 36.59%
  • Prescription drugs

    33 40.24%
  • Psychedelic mushrooms

    44 53.66%
  • Ecstasy

    35 42.68%
  • Opium

    38 46.34%
  • other

    28 34.15%
  • None of the above

    14 17.07%
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It's only marginally harder to come by. I doubt that a few degrees of separation would account for such a large disparity. Either way, we are both speculating.
    I would have and would do a lot more drugs if they weren't illegal. However, in my line of work I'd be fired. Same goes for the the hundreds of thousands in this country in my line of work: government employee and government contractor.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I would have and would do a lot more drugs if they weren't illegal.
    Not me. Statistical equilibrium is thus maintained.

    Curious though, which drugs and why?

    However, in my line of work I'd be fired. Same goes for the the hundreds of thousands in this country in my line of work: government employee and government contractor.
    If consuming those substances was recognized as a right the government could not fire you for drug-use unless, of course, it interfered with your work.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh I get it, you're waiting for someone to ask you for links....uh huh....
    The burden of proof is on people who think that drug laws actually do have an effect on the rate of drug use. The statement I made that "there is no known correlation" cannot be proven, it can only be disproven. But I can prove that the World Health Organization and the CATO Institute both agree with me that there is no known correlation between drug laws and the rate of drug use. Here you go:
    Quote Originally Posted by World Health Organization
    “The U.S., which has been driving much of the world’s drug research and drug policy agenda, stands out with higher levels of use of alcohol, cocaine, and cannabis, despite punitive illegal drug policies. … The Netherlands, with a less criminally punitive approach to cannabis use than the US, has experienced lower levels of use, particularly among younger adults. Clearly, by itself, a punitive policy towards possession and use accounts for limited variation in nation level rates of illegal drug use.

    The World Health Organization Documents Failure of U.S. Drug Policies
    Quote Originally Posted by CATO Institute
    "Some supporters of drug prohibition claim that its benefits are undeniable and self-evident. Their main assumption is that without prohibition drug use would skyrocket, with disastrous results. But there is little evidence for this commonly held belief. In fact, in the few cases where empirical evidence does exist it lends little support to the prediction of soaring drug use. For example, in two places in the Western world where use of small amounts of marijuana is legal--the Netherlands and Alaska--the rate of marijuana consumption is arguably lower than in the continental United States, where marijuana is banned. In 1982, 6.3 percent of American high school seniors smoked marijuana daily, but only 4 percent did so in Alaska. In 1985, 5.5 percent of American high school seniors used marijuana daily, but in the Netherlands the rate was only 0.5 percent.[6] These are hardly controlled comparisons--no such comparisons exist--but the numbers that are available do not bear out the drastic scenario portrayed by supporters of continued prohibition."

    Thinking about Drug Legalization | James Ostrowski | Cato Institute: Policy Analysis
    When people say there should be harsh penalties for drug use, or that we can't legalize drugs because everyone will start using them, it's based on the false assumption that drug laws actually have an effect on the rate of drug use. They need to prove this association or stop assuming it exists.
    Last edited by Binary_Digit; 05-19-09 at 06:31 AM.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Again, anti-prostitution law has NOTHING to do with religion. Not in any way, shape or form.

    Anti-prostitution law has to do with preventing sex-slave trafficking and the abuse of women through prostitution.
    My point is that the government (We the people) should have no standing in trying to influence an individual's moral behavior through legal prohibition of things. Morality is the province of the church &Y family...not government. Aside from anything else, enforcing such "Prohibitions" are doomed to failure.

    If a woman chooses to ruin her life by becoming a prostitute, drug addict or drunk, that is HER decision to make. The state should have no more interest in that decision than if she decides to overeat.
    As long as she doesn't interfere with MY rights, it's none of my business.
    As far as this is concerned: :"Anti-prostitution law has to do with preventing sex-slave trafficking and the abuse of women through prostitution.".......I would argue that the very act of making prostitution illegal creates the atmosphere for sex-slave trafficking in the first place.
    Last edited by Devil505; 05-19-09 at 07:41 AM.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    For those who are pro-drug legalization:

    Let's say there is a drug that has a 100% fatality rate. If you take it, you get temendously high, after which you always die. Obviously, since all the users are dead its use cannot be banned. My question is, would you support the legalization of the sale of this drug?

    Don't mean to hijack the thread, just curious.
    I support legalized suicide, so sure. I doubt anyone who wasn't suicidal anyone would bother getting high just to die (especially with no living friends to rave about the drug's potency).
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    My point is that the government (We the people) should have no standing in trying to influence an individual's moral behavior through legal prohibition of things. Morality is the province of the church &Y family...not government. Aside from anything else, enforcing such "Prohibitions" are doomed to failure.
    Anti-prostitution law has nothing to do with subjective morality either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    If a woman chooses to ruin her life by becoming a prostitute, drug addict or drunk, that is HER decision to make.
    I'm not sure what part of "slavery" you didn't understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    The state should have no more interest in that decision than if she decides to overeat.
    There is no such global markit forcing people to over eat under threat of death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    As long as she doesn't interfere with MY rights, it's none of my business.
    Until your daughter, wife or mother is kidnapped....

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    As far as this is concerned: :"Anti-prostitution law has to do with preventing sex-slave trafficking and the abuse of women through prostitution.".......I would argue that the very act of making prostitution illegal creates the atmosphere for sex-slave trafficking in the first place.
    Many nations thought the same thing, then legalized it "so it can be regulated and controlled for the worker's saftey", and found that they couldn't control it at all.

    Sweden is the best example of legalizing prostitution with the best of intentions, coping with the reality of what prostitution is and what it does to women and society, and how to clean up the mess.

    If you only care about things that you can see directly affect you, fine, I'm not sure why you choose to live in a community then, but that's your choice.
    Last edited by Jerry; 05-19-09 at 10:15 AM.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Anti-prostitution law has nothing to do with subjective morality either.
    Come again?

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    When people say there should be harsh penalties for drug use, or that we can't legalize drugs because everyone will start using them, it's based on the false assumption that drug laws actually have an effect on the rate of drug use. They need to prove this association or stop assuming it exists.
    It's ironic that you quoted the WHO and UN bodies... when they are the primary culprits behind punitive action of drug use worldwide. You know, when the Canadian government was debating decriminalization of marijuana a few years ago, the UN got involved and told our Prime Minister that Canadian politicians have an obligation to uphold international law.

    The UN, at the highest levels, has dictated a blanket drug policy worldwide, based on data coming out of the worst regions... like Columbia, where people are killed by the thousands in drug wars. It disregards individual nations, cultures, and what is appropriate for sovereign governments to decide. Then again, the U.S. provides the most funding to the UN, so I wouldn't be surprised if UN drug policy is a reflection of that.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Come again?
    I'll need a moment to let the coffee kick in. Hey, a man's body needs a little time to "recharge"

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'll need a moment to let the coffee kick in. Hey, a man's body needs a little time to "recharge"
    Caffeine is a drug

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