View Poll Results: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

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  • Marijuana

    67 81.71%
  • Cocaine

    36 43.90%
  • LSD

    38 46.34%
  • Meth

    30 36.59%
  • Prescription drugs

    33 40.24%
  • Psychedelic mushrooms

    44 53.66%
  • Ecstasy

    35 42.68%
  • Opium

    38 46.34%
  • other

    28 34.15%
  • None of the above

    14 17.07%
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    We've already legalized drugs like this. If you drink one gallon of grain alchohol you will die, everytime.
    Or eat a handful of Tylenol. OTC pain pills kill twice as many people per year than ecstasy.
    Last edited by Thoreau; 05-18-09 at 11:29 PM.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    Or eat a handful of Tylenol. OTC pain pills kill twice as many people per year than ecstasy.
    Good point, anyway, these arguments are fruitless. The opposition's entire premise can be summed up in four words...

    Drugs are bad, m'kay?

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    Or eat a handful of Tylenol. OTC pain pills kill twice as many people per year than ecstasy.
    Because ecstasy is illegal and thus harder to come by?

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    1. There is no known correlation between drug laws and the rate of drug use. People who assume that the laws are keeping drug use to a minimum, and/or that drug use would skyrocket out of control if legalized, cannot support this myth.

    2. Prohibition causes more problems than it solves. No drug has ever been made less harmful as a result of prohibition. Every drug in existence is even more harmful and dangerous under prohibition, both to the user and to society. Many of the problems associated with drug use are caused by prohibition, and many others are made worse by prohibition.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Because ecstasy is illegal and thus harder to come by?
    That could be argued but the fact that we allow a drug that kills 500-1000 people per year to be sold in bathroom coin dispensers but we give people felonies for possessing a drug that kills 50-80 people per year. The deaths are also prohibition related causes; impurities in product, dehydration because raves charge for water, overheating because raves are done in clandestine locations without A/C etc.

    Also ecstasy is not hard to come by, any public HS student can get E by the end of the school day without leaving campus.
    Last edited by Thoreau; 05-18-09 at 11:47 PM.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    1. There is no known correlation between drug laws and the rate of drug use. People who assume that the laws are keeping drug use to a minimum, and/or that drug use would skyrocket out of control if legalized, cannot support this myth.

    2. Prohibition causes more problems than it solves. No drug has ever been made less harmful as a result of prohibition. Every drug in existence is even more harmful and dangerous under prohibition, both to the user and to society. Many of the problems associated with drug use are caused by prohibition, and many others are made worse by prohibition.
    Oh I get it, you're waiting for someone to ask you for links....uh huh....

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    That could be argued but the fact that we allow a drug that kills 500-1000 people per year to be sold in bathroom coin dispensers but we give people felonies for possessing a drug that kills 50-80 people per year, mostly for prohibition related causes; impurities, dehydration because raves charge for water, overheating because raves are done in clandestine locations without A/C etc.

    Also ecstasy is not hard to come by, any public HS student can get E by the end of the school day without leaving campus.
    I didn't say E was hard to come by, I said it was harder to come by, and E's illegal status gives it a stigma which likely repels more people than, say, an espresso would.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I didn't say E was hard to come by, I said it was harder to come by, and E's illegal status gives it a stigma which likely repels more people than, say, an espresso would.
    Yeah, I understand that that argument can be made. I would like to re-post what I posted in another thread on one of my personal experiences,

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    The laws don't work, when I was in High school I was openly propositioned to buy weed, shrooms, ecstasy and prescription narcotics. I was anti-drug/pro-drug war at this point in my life but I started to realize how much of an utter failure the policy was if I could get my hands on just about any drug of my choosing by the end of a school day, without even leaving campus.

    Then an undercover narq came to my school as an enrolled student. The sting netted 6 students over the time span of a semester and a half.
    The sting was described by the school and local police as a great success, the campus is now drug free! No, you just netted 6 people who were dumb enough to sell to a 30 year old "student". I realized that the Drug War is all about budgets and PR and not actually about public safety, big surprise there.

    And I still went about my day at school propositioned just as much as usual, the remaining years of HS.
    I can guarantee that this is the rule and not the exception for every public school. I have even heard of private schools that could not escape it. The drug war is a false sense of security when in reality anyone with a few bills can purchase drugs regardless of their age.
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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Because ecstasy is illegal and thus harder to come by?
    It's only marginally harder to come by. I doubt that a few degrees of separation would account for such a large disparity. Either way, we are both speculating.

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    Re: Which drugs should be legalized for recreational use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    I can guarantee that this is the rule and not the exception for every public school. I have even heard of private schools that could not escape it. The drug war is a false sense of security when in reality anyone with a few bills can purchase drugs regardless of their age.
    I'll go you one further and say that it was available in my middle school.
    I could get weed and downers very easily.

    Lets not forget that these institutions are government owned and operated.

    They can't even control the flow of drugs on their own property.
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