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Pelosi Poll

In light or rising political pressure, by the end of June, Nancy Pelosi will:

  • go on a shooting rampage.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • move to impeach Preisident Obama.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    14
I'm afraid that I'm going to have to call you out and have you back your 99% figure. And please restrict your figures to relevant physical science, no psychologists for instance.

While we're at it, please produce document references specifically approving of legally defined (by U.S. legal authorities only,) torture practices, especially as they relate to nonuniformed enemy combatants (who are traditionally given summary executions.)

Please. If you can name me a single scientific organization that disagrees with AGW, then we can play your little game.

And here's the torture documents:
the newest ones:
Newly released Bush documents detail torture tactics - The Boston Globe
others:
American Civil Liberties Union : Torture FOIA
 
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OOO! Personal attacks! That makes for the best political debates.


Both sides are guilty of it.The pro-gay and tranny crowd falsely labels anyone who disagrees with them as hate moungers,bigots,ignoramuses and homophobes. The anti-war crowd labels anyone who disagrees with them calls them war mongers and fallaciously calls Bush a war criminal and jump on every troops are guilty band wagon. The pro-illegals crowd falsely labels anyone who is actually against illegal immigration as racist,xenophobes, anti-hispanic or nazis/jackboots. The man made global warming fairy tale believers label anyone who disagrees with them as like people who believe the earth is flat or as being bought off by big oil(as though that is some legitimate excuse for dismissing their claims when big oil doesn't give a ****). So please do not sit there like a hypocrite and act like you or your side is so innocent.
 
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Both sides are guilty of it.The pro-gay and tranny crowd falsely labels anyone who disagrees with them as hate moungers,bigots,ignoramuses and homophobes. The anti-war crowd labels anyone who disagrees with them calls them war mongers and fallaciously calls Bush a war criminal and jump on every troops are guilty band wagon. The pro-illegals crowd falsely labels anyone who is actually against illegal immigration as racist,xenophobes, anti-hispanic or nazis/jackboots. So please do not sit there like a hypocrite and act like you or your side is so innocent.

And I don't like any of that. I at least am consistent(usually, except when I screw up). To go with your first example, I am firmly for gay marriage, but understand that people against it can be against it for principled reasons.

You referred to some one like me, who feels that waterboarding is torture and we should not engage in it as a "*****fist". Not only is it unfair, as I am niether of the two terms you stick together, but also dismissive in a way that I would not(I hope) do to you.
 
She isn't getting flak because she is a woman. She is getting flak because she is is a hypocrite. She had no problem with the water boarding terrorist until a bunch of *****fist(*****+pacifist,yeah I know its just sticking two synonymous words together) started whining how we were mistreating the poor wittle terwowist. Then she jumped on the waterboarding is torture short bus to toss the salad of these *****fist for cheap votes. This is no different than any other politician who switches sides on a hot button issue for cheap votes.


Politicians lie about their positions on certain issues for cheap votes all the time and some even slander troops for cheap votes and people in their own district as means of trying to guilt them into voting for a certain candidate and they still get re-elected to office. Voters in general have a short memory or a short attention span when it comes to politics and there is the fear that the other person can do a lot more damage than the candidate they have now.

Well, as we now know, and is being discussed as I'm writing this on This Week, waterboarding was done to provide cover for the Bush administration's lead up to the Iraq War, trying to add gravitas, by suggesting, falsely, that Saddam Hussein was linked to Al-Qaeda...which we know, for a fact to be untrue. Today.
Nobody but nobody does hypocrisy and lies better than the right.
And I wonder if you'd apply that term to anyone who chose not to serve in or support the Vietnam War, knowing what we know today?
 
Well, as we now know, and is being discussed as I'm writing this on This Week, waterboarding was done to provide cover for the Bush administration's lead up to the Iraq War, trying to add gravitas, by suggesting, falsely, that Saddam Hussein was linked to Al-Qaeda...which we know, for a fact to be untrue. Today.
Nobody but nobody does hypocrisy and lies better than the right.

Nothing but left wing Bush bashing conspiracy theorist drivel. Of course we have wackos on the right like the For every Bush Lied to get us into Iraq,Bush stole the elections, Bush master minded 9-11 and other left wing conspiracy theorist nuts the right has the Obama is a closet muslim and Obama is not a natural born American conspiracy,Obama is a Kenyan, Obama lost his natural born citizenship when his step father adopted him making him a Indonesian citizen and other theorist nuts. I am sure that further into Obam's presidency there will be more right wing conspiracy theorist allegations. Then when there is another president there will be diehard bashers making up lies for that person too.

And I wonder if you'd apply that term to anyone who chose not to serve in or support the Vietnam War, knowing what we know today?

I have absolutely no respect for any draft dodger and deserter. Generations of men before them were drafted in WWI WWII Korean war and other conflicts/wars and the degenerates in the 60s were the only ones to run.
 
Nothing but left wing Bush bashing conspiracy theorist drivel. Of course we have wackos on the right like the For every Bush Lied to get us into Iraq,Bush stole the elections, Bush master minded 9-11 and other left wing conspiracy theorist nuts the right has the Obama is a closet muslim and Obama is not a natural born American conspiracy,Obama is a Kenyan, Obama lost his natural born citizenship when his step father adopted him making him a Indonesian citizen and other theorist nuts. I am sure that further into Obam's presidency there will be more right wing conspiracy theorist allegations. Then when there is another president there will be diehard bashers making up lies for that person too.



I have absolutely no respect for any draft dodger and deserter. Generations of men before them were drafted in WWI WWII Korean war and other conflicts/wars and the degenerates in the 60s were the only ones to run.

I'm sorry, but there is no honor in an illegal or an unjust war. The Vietnam War was unjust. The Iraq War was illegal.
 
It's good to see an honest war referee posting. Snicker.
 
Another waste of space poll. :roll:

You can have everything that Pelosi is accused of. Facts are that she is not who authorized waterboarding. She is not who tried to rewrite the law to make an illegal act appear legal. Pelosi will still be Speaker while Cheney, and probably others, are fighting to stay out of jail.

Dat's da facts, Jack.
Now why am I picturing Lee J. Cobb in Twelve Angry Men, desperately clinging to his desire to convict when the tide had so clearly turned towards acquittal?
 
I'm sorry, but there is no honor in an illegal or an unjust war. The Vietnam War was unjust. The Iraq War was illegal.

*****fist definitions of what wars are or are not illegal are not applicable. This notion that the wars were unjust or illegal is nothing more than pinko commie and *****fist propaganda. You people have no room to criticize the loonies on the right are running around saying Obama is not a natural born citizen or lost his natural born citizen or is really a Kenyan or is a closet muslim.
 
Now why am I picturing Lee J. Cobb in Twelve Angry Men, desperately clinging to his desire to convict when the tide had so clearly turned towards acquittal?

I have no idea what tide you're watching. :doh The American people are continuing to want more information about what really happened during Bush's rush to torture. The Pelosi drama, while entertaining, is a lame attempt to distract the country away from the real issue. And it is failing.

At most, Pelosi can be labeled a hypocrite or weak for not opening her big mouth when she should have, even tho she was limited by law as to what she said about her briefing and to whom she said it. The Bush mob however, are still on the hook for their creative ideas about how to make torture legal. All your lame distracting is not changing that.

And now it seems that the Repubs are now, because of their excitement about getting Pelosi, demanding some kind of Truth Squad to look into this. Which is what the Dems wanted from the beginning. God, I gotta laugh at the idea that they are going to hang themselves on the bigger issue in order to win the smaller issue. :rofl
 
Thank you for so eloquently illustrating the Leftist Mindset!


In other words, a poll which sparks extensive discussion of the issues is a "waste of space" to the Leftist, who believes that Lesser Mortals should accept what they are told by their Collectivist Betters with acclamation and alacrity, and never with analysis and healthy skepticism.

You are a credit to your kind.

At this point there were 22 replies to your biased poll over a 24 hour period. That's less than one per hour. Do you think that is an "extensive discussion"? Do you really think anybody believes your poll was looking for any serious "analysis"? :roll:

Thank you.
 
At this point there were 22 replies to your biased poll over a 24 hour period. That's less than one per hour. Do you think that is an "extensive discussion"? Do you really think anybody believes your poll was looking for any serious "analysis"? :roll:

Thank you.


Some people actually believe Pelosi's hypocrisy and lies is going to have a negative effect on her whether its the polls,forced resignation,or kicked out of office. Personally I think he should have had "nothing is going to happen" as a option.
 
At this point there were 22 replies to your biased poll over a 24 hour period. That's less than one per hour. Do you think that is an "extensive discussion"? Do you really think anybody believes your poll was looking for any serious "analysis"? :roll:

Thank you.
Of course it is silly, I'm only interested in hearing from thoughtful posters and colorful, amusing buffoons. Who else would one want to have post?


Also, the poll is relevant for several weeks now, I will refrain from trying to break that down into days for you, since you don't have that many fingers and toes (it is to be hoped,) and I shudder to think what other appendages you might wish to use to cipher the total.

The point here being, that perhaps some people are not yet ready to take a position, and there is little pressure for them to commit.

Do let me know the next time I can help you understand the stunningly obvious.

TTFN!
 
Some people actually believe Pelosi's hypocrisy and lies is going to have a negative effect on her whether its the polls,forced resignation,or kicked out of office. Personally I think he should have had "nothing is going to happen" as a option.
I submit that if she is still struggling to stay in office, that would constitute an unchanged position. I have never thought her secure in her position, if only becuase I beleive that she has strong rivals in her own party.
 
Of course it is silly

obviously.

Also, the poll is relevant for several weeks now, I will refrain from trying to break that down into days for you, since you don't have that many fingers and toes (it is to be hoped,) and I shudder to think what other appendages you might wish to use to cipher the total.

You posted this yesterday morning. How many days do you think there was between yesterday and today? :rofl
 
Ah! You have caught me in a rare typographical error! The phrase should have been: "of course it is Silly," -- "Silly" in this case is a proper noun and should have been capitalized.

Your confusion about the number of days involved results from a peculiar tendency to look backwards. We should explore this sometime. I refer to the number of days until "the end of June," to which the poll addresses itself.

You see what I mean about the need to get you help with the "stunningly obvious?"
 
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I refer to the number of days until "the end of June," to which the poll addresses itself.

You see what I mean about the need to get you help with the "stunningly obvious?"

What is obvious is that you don't see what is obvious. It doesn't matter to what time period your post was directed. People only had a little more than 24 hrs to reply to it and they... well... barely did. You're welcome, for me upping your average posts per hour.
 
What is obvious is that you don't see what is obvious. It doesn't matter to what time period your post was directed. People only had a little more than 24 hrs to reply to it and they... well... barely did. You're welcome, for me upping your average posts per hour.
Well, you do up the number of posts, but sadly it's a trade off, as you seem bent upon diminishing the mean intelligence level of the thread's posts.

On that happy note, I shall bid you adieu, as I'm a day sleeper, and as it's after 8:00 a.m. here, I must hie me unto my rest.
 
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