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    Whats your beliefs, really...

    Here in America, "liberal" and "conservative" have so much excess baggage on them, so many extra connotations. But when you break them down to their roots, their true meaning, the words apply to someone's relationship to the status quo.

    A Liberal is someone who wants to make changes and reforms within the system.

    A Conservative is someone who wants to leave the system as it is, or make only the smallest and incrimental of changes.

    A Radical is someone who wants to completely overthrow the system and replace it with something very different.

    A Reactionary wants to remove changes made in the system, back to an earlier state.

    By those four definitions, how do you characterise your beliefs in relationship to the power structure in your country?
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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    Various on the topic.

    Using the definitions provided I consider the changes I want in the social construct to be conservative (slight change or no change), change in fiscal to be liberal (larger rework of the current system), and my belief of removing Social Security to be radical (removal of the system).

    I am also more radical with Marriage. The whole system should be overhauled and removed.
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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    I am a liberal. I see the problems in the country and think that change is needed in order to correct the problems. Sadly, human nature fears change, thus the system in place is designed as a conservative, incremental change government in order to avoid scaring the sheep.

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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    Oddly enough, by your definitions I am a conservative. I hate making rapid change, preferring to make small changes, see results, and then decide what further changes need to be made.

    Edited to add: heh, I select conservative, since that is the answer based on your definitions, and I see that I, a self identified liberal, and the only one so far to chose conservative...
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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    I am a reactionary in application, a radical in desire, and an anarchist whenever I can get away with it.

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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I am a reactionary in application, a radical in desire, and an anarchist whenever I can get away with it.
    ........huh?
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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    By those four definitions, how do you characterise your beliefs in relationship to the power structure in your country?
    I'll have to presume that you mean overall power structure, not components of the structure, such as financial, health and human services, etc. and select "liberal".

    I do believe there are changes needed within the overall structure of the country. I don't feel it should be completely overthrown, but we are in need of modernization to bring us into the present instead of continuing to live back in the previous century.

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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    Liberal.
    I believe ours is the best government system ever devised, but it requires constant tinkering.


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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I am a reactionary in application, a radical in desire, and an anarchist whenever I can get away with it.
    Hahah, I really like that because it's very similar to myself. I don't really have much in the way of anarchist desires though, but sometimes my rhetoric is mistaken for it.
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    Re: Whats your beliefs, really...

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    ........huh?
    Simple enough:

    Reactionary in application: I want to roll back the overgrown government we have in Washington and return it to the proper federalism outlined in the Constitution. Basically, I want to undue Lincoln's mess.

    Radical in desire: The society I would wish is something of a cross between a Louis L'Amour Western and Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. While such a society is not wholly achievable, maximizing individual liberty lets me get closest to it.

    Anarchist when I can get away with it: I have a problem with authority figures. For some strange reason they don't like me very much.

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