View Poll Results: Drug War stance.

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  • Stay the Course.

    0 0%
  • Amp up the Drug War.

    1 2.38%
  • Demand/Harm reduction.

    1 2.38%
  • Legalize marijuana/soft drugs.

    7 16.67%
  • Decriminalization.

    4 9.52%
  • Full Legalization.

    27 64.29%
  • Medical Marijuana.

    0 0%
  • Other.

    2 4.76%
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Thread: The Drug War.

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    The Drug War.

    I just wanted to know where everyone stands on the Drug War. It is a large poll but I wanted close to every opinion represented. So what is your opinion of the drug war? Pick a number that best describes your views.

    1.) Stay the course. Keep the laws the way they are, and only increase funding to match inflation and a rising population.

    2.)Amp up the drug war. Increase funding exponentially, add more mandatory minimums, militarize all borders with troops, allow for militarized drug checkpoints within country, eliminate treatment as an alternative to sentencing, give police more power in searching, use the powers of the patriot act to investigate drug crimes etc.

    3.)Demand and harm reduction dominated policy. Focus transferred from justice department to medical based policy. Treatment over prosecution. Harm reduction such as clean needle exchange, methadone maintenance clinics, etc.

    4.)Legalize marijuana and/or other "soft" drugs. Recognize that drugs are not equally harmful, possibly contain policies from #3 as well.


    5.)Decriminalization. Focus away from the user and focus resources toward targeting supply, while still making use an infraction. May or may not be coupled with policies from #3.

    6.)Legalize all drugs. Apply regulations for the sale such as age restrictions, standardize the potency and control for impurities. May or may not be taxed based on political preferences...

    7.)Medical marijuana. Federally recognized as a legal medication, otherwise recreational use is illegal/decriminalized.

    8.)Others?!
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    Re: The Drug War.

    I'm the full legalization type of guy. That system can come with problems especially with designer drugs with pharmaceuticals. Make something that doesn't kill you or your productivity (at least not for some time of usage), but is instantaneously addicting. Things like that could be kinda bad. But mostly I would go the full legalization route.
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    Re: The Drug War.

    other - each of the 50 states decides for themselves.

    If we end entitlement programs, I would support full on legalization of everything and anything. until then, I would support legalization of most, decriminalization of a few others.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    I was a foot soldier in the "war on drugs". We lost. Time we admitted that and move on.

    Seriously... enlightening people so the demand goes away is the only real solution to the drug and alcohol problems. Prohibition doesn't work.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm the full legalization type of guy. That system can come with problems especially with designer drugs with pharmaceuticals. Make something that doesn't kill you or your productivity (at least not for some time of usage), but is instantaneously addicting. Things like that could be kinda bad. But mostly I would go the full legalization route.
    Even though the nicotine in tobacco is recognized as the most addictive substance known, it still only produces dependence symptoms in 32% of those who use it according to the institute of medicine. Compare that to the same results they found for heroin 23%, cocaine 17%, alcohol 15% and marijuana (including hashish) 9%.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Full legalization on the national level. The Constitution doesn't grant the Feds legal authority to interdict this. At most, it could implement tariffs. Those could reasonably be applied to drug treatment programs, since I'm not going to pretend the nanny state is going to evaporate in my lifetime.

    The principal of federalism leads to local control, funded internally by each state.

    From a purely libertarian viewpoint, there's no valid reason to interdict the drug trade.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Full legalization on the national level. The Constitution doesn't grant the Feds legal authority to interdict this. At most, it could implement tariffs. Those could reasonably be applied to drug treatment programs, since I'm not going to pretend the nanny state is going to evaporate in my lifetime.

    The principal of federalism leads to local control, funded internally by each state.

    From a purely libertarian viewpoint, there's no valid reason to interdict the drug trade.
    My position is that the government can not interdict the drug trade, it is impossible to have policy that contradicts the most basic principle of economics. "when there is a demand there is a supply."

    And nor should they since drug use in and of itself does not harm another of their person or property.
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    Re: The Drug War.

    Part of me says "full legalization". The other part of me remembers the time in college I decided to drive while I was high, and stopped to let a pinecone cross the road because I thought it was a hedgehog.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Part of me says "full legalization". The other part of me remembers the time in college I decided to drive while I was high, and stopped to let a pinecone cross the road because I thought it was a hedgehog.
    I am sure that would be considered the same as a DUI, regardless of whether the drug is licit or illicit.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    Even though the nicotine in tobacco is recognized as the most addictive substance known, it still only produces dependence symptoms in 32% of those who use it according to the institute of medicine. Compare that to the same results they found for heroin 23%, cocaine 17%, alcohol 15% and marijuana (including hashish) 9%.
    Yeah, but scientists are really smart, I'm sure they would be able to make something well more addictive than nicotine.
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