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  • Amp up the Drug War.

    1 2.38%
  • Demand/Harm reduction.

    1 2.38%
  • Legalize marijuana/soft drugs.

    7 16.67%
  • Decriminalization.

    4 9.52%
  • Full Legalization.

    27 64.29%
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Thread: The Drug War.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I have a hard time with this issue. Part of me thinks that prohibition does not work well, and it's alot of money spent futilely. Another part of me remembers what I was like before I learned to, as Nancy Reagan put it, "just say no to drugs", and how subtly assiduous the problems where, and think that even if the money spent is inefficient to the job, it's better than giving up.

    I think overall, that at the current time, I just see no overwhelming reason to significantly change our drug policy.
    I don't want to pry too much, so ignore me if it too personal, but did the illegality or other nature of the drug war somehow help you eventually say no and straighten your life out?

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    I posted an lengthy response to your post that got deleted some how.

    What about the unintended consequences that can be attributed to the Drug War inflating the price of drugs? Such as violence in Mexico (over 5,000 cartel related murders a year), at least 90% of all gang activity, the funding of terror groups and regimes, and other social costs that permeate our country?
    How much would any savings in that area be offset by increased costs due to a probable increased prevalence of drug use?

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I don't want to pry too much, so ignore me if it too personal, but did the illegality or other nature of the drug war somehow help you eventually say no and straighten your life out?
    Not entirely, though it did have an effect.

    Edited for completeness: After the half dozenth time you have the police come cruising up the street when you are in your car making a deal, you really start thinking "I got to change something". That was far from the only reason, but it had a definite effect.
    Last edited by Redress; 05-14-09 at 07:39 PM.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not entirely, though it did have an effect.
    did you ever get in drug related legal troubles?

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    did you ever get in drug related legal troubles?
    I was incredibly lucky, and never got busted. Way too may close calls.

    I think I see where you are going with this, will see shortly I guess.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I don't want to pry too much, so ignore me if it too personal, but did the illegality or other nature of the drug war somehow help you eventually say no and straighten your life out?
    The laws don't work, when I was in High school I was openly propositioned to buy weed, shrooms, ecstasy and prescription narcotics. I was anti-drug/pro-drug war at this point in my life but I started to realize how much of an utter failure the policy was if I could get my hands on just about any drug of my choosing by the end of a school day, without even leaving campus.

    Then an undercover narq came to my school as an enrolled student. The sting netted 6 students over the time span of a semester and a half.
    The sting was described by the school and local police as a great success, the campus is now drug free! No, you just netted 6 people who were dumb enough to sell to a 30 year old "student". I realized that the Drug War is all about budgets and PR and not actually about public safety, big surprise there.

    And I still went about my day at school propositioned just as much as usual, the remaining years of HS.
    Last edited by Thoreau; 05-14-09 at 07:50 PM.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How much would any savings in that area be offset by increased costs due to a probable increased prevalence of drug use?
    Your are assuming two things that are extremely erroneous, that drug use is going to suddenly permeate the vast majority of society, and that drugs are going to be as harmful as they are under prohibition.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau View Post
    Your are assuming two things that are extremely erroneous, that drug use is going to suddenly permeate the vast majority of society, and that drugs are going to be as harmful as they are under prohibition.
    You are misrepresenting and exaggerating my assumptions.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I was incredibly lucky, and never got busted. Way too may close calls.

    I think I see where you are going with this, will see shortly I guess.
    lol.

    I'm not really going anywhere with it. I just rarely see people that used drugs and stopped that found the drug war was was much use in their own personal battle.

    The biggest problem I find with the drug war is social programs allow people to hide their problems for too long making it into a bigger problem then it otherwise would be. Even though I have reservations legalizing hard drugs, I don't see anything beneficial about a drug war in the current nanny state climate.

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    Re: The Drug War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are misrepresenting and exaggerating my assumptions.
    Then what health cost are going to be so great that they out weigh the costs of prohibition, that I must remind you harms users and nonusers alike.

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