View Poll Results: How Will You Personally Harmed By Same-Sex Marriages in Society?

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  • My spouse will leave me.

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  • I'll have come up with a reason to say "no".

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  • My son's special friend would be my son-in-law.

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  • I could never again rent a honeymoon suite in a hotel.

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  • I won't be, I'm not getting married.

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Thread: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

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    How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    Pick as many as you like, add your own, if you want.

    I really really want those opposed to same sex marriage to participate in this one.

    Oops. Forgot to add "I won't be, none of my business". So I vote "other".
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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    This should be interesting.

    Let's see how many idiots we have on these forums.

    I voted "I won't be, I'm not getting married." But even if I was my life is not somehow lessened by the decisions of two people I have no connection to.


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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    Mine is "other" for the following reason:

    "I may be getting married in the dramatically far-far-far future, so if all the homosexuals are out fornicating with each other under wedlock, then who the hell is going to cut my girl's hair for the wedding?"
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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    If there is gay marriage then it'll look straight marriage look bad because of the comparatively higher likelyhood of divorce or financial instability.
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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    If there is gay marriage then it'll look straight marriage look bad because of the comparatively higher likelyhood of divorce or financial instability.
    And yet you are a libertarian?


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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    A mock poll, intended to mock people... I probably shouldn't bother to reply, but hope of intelligent debate springs eternal, so...

    Here's what I posted on this subject in another thread:

    But still, there are so many things that concern me [about normalizing/legalizing gay marriage]. What effects will this have on children growing up in the coming decades? Is gay-ness purely a matter of genetics or is it often a choice, or a matter of early learned/mimicked behaviors? I don't know, and I doubt the ivory-tower eggheads know either, but it worries me.

    Will activists insist that schools teach second-graders that gay marriage is normal and acceptible and fine and that anyone who says otherwise is a bigot? Even if the kid's parents are opposed on religious grounds? We seem to be headed that way already.

    I really do worry that setting the precedent, the principle, of radically altering a traditional institution like marriage (that is in enough trouble already!) for the sake of the 1% to maybe 7% of the population that might want to do that, could open the door to lawsuits/legislation by forty-dozen different special intrests/fetishists/etc GAWD KNOWS WHATALL suing to have marriage redefined to accomodate their special circumstance. Our culture is so damn "diverse" already that we can barely stay together as a nation...way too many "ism's"... I don't know if we can handle much more shaking up of the foundational institutions of our society. Honestly, it worries me.

    As someone who leans libertarian, I am tempted to say "do your thing, I'll do mine; respect my space and we're cool."
    However, I'm enough of a conservative to wonder and worry about the overall, long-term effects on society, including the Law of Unintended Consequences, of so radically changing a traditional institution that has long been the main building-block of society.

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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    And yet you are a libertarian?
    That was humor.

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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    A mock poll, intended to mock people... I probably shouldn't bother to reply, but hope of intelligent debate springs eternal, so...

    Here's what I posted on this subject in another thread:
    Law of Unintended Consequence? Really? Doesn't seem like a logical law to base anything on...

    You never know the consequence, as a good Kantian would say, so you should act with good intentions.
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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    A mock poll, intended to mock people... I probably shouldn't bother to reply, but hope of intelligent debate springs eternal, so...

    Here's what I posted on this subject in another thread:
    So as a supposed libertarian, you think that government should be used as a vehicle to preserve and enforce cultural and religious norms?

    This is a perfect example of why I have said time and time again that maybe 10% of those that claim to be libertarian actually are. With the rest just being typical conservatives or republicans that call themselves libertarian because they think it sounds cool.

    Those are all valid points of discussions as to the philosophical / moral / religious aspects of the issue, but they have nothing at all to do with whether or not the state should recognize same sex marriages or not.
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    Re: How Would You Be Harmed By Society's Acceptance of Same Sex Marriage?

    "Will activists insist that schools teach second-graders that gay marriage is normal and acceptible and fine and that anyone who says otherwise is a bigot? Even if the kid's parents are opposed on religious grounds? We seem to be headed that way already."

    ---Goshin

    Schools teach second-graders that belief in any religion is fine and no particular one is correct, something that I'm sure many parents are opposed to on religious grounds. It's called private school, if you're really all that opposed.

    As for the rest of your arguments, substituting interracial marriage for gay marriage brings up the same concerns (as of 50 years ago) and the consequences don't seem to have been drastic.
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