View Poll Results: If you oppose same-sex marriage, are you...

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  • ... ignorant?

    9 19.57%
  • ... bigoted?

    9 19.57%
  • ... homophobic?

    9 19.57%
  • ... stupid (which differs from ignorant)?

    6 13.04%
  • ... unreasonable?

    11 23.91%
  • ... unenlightened?

    7 15.22%
  • ... (all of the above)

    8 17.39%
  • ... (all of the above, as well as [specify])

    1 2.17%
  • ... (none of the above)

    18 39.13%
  • ... (other)

    11 23.91%
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    As long as you have two parallel institutions, they will never truly be equal. Brown v Board of Education.
    Not true. They would not be parallel institutions. One is religious, the other is not.

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    It's not the government's job to "sanctify" things or keep them "sacred." That is between you and whatever church you attend. If gay marriage is legalized, no church will be forced to perform them...so your marriage will be exactly as "sacred" in the eyes of your religion as it was before.
    I disagree. I think it would undermine the already weak foundations of marriage.

    PS I need to clarify...

    I don't mean gay marriage would weaken it. I mean more government involvement.
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I absolutely agree. They should have exactly the same protections under the law be it civil unions or anything else.

    This being the case; is it to much to ask to keep the sanctity of my marriage sacred?
    I think the sanctity of your marriage is with your partner and your God not the law of the state.

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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I think the sanctity of your marriage is with your partner and your God not the law of the state.
    Then the state needs to stay out of it, wouldn't you agree?
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then the state needs to stay out of it, wouldn't you agree?
    It depends on what you mean by that? No tax benefits for any kind of union? No joint-filing status? No alimony or state action whatsover?

    Wives being legally no different than a girlfriend? Then hell yes I agree.
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Calling a spade a spade is not about earning cool points.

    And you are a homophobe, shall I quote the many ways I know this?
    I do not have a phobia of gay people. The term homophobe is used by the pro-gay tranny crowd to demonize and shame those who oppose homosexuality or gay marriage. Spreading blatant lies does not further the agenda of gays and trannys..
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not have a phobia of gay people. The term homophobe is used by the pro-gay tranny crowd to demonize and shame those who oppose homosexuality or gay marriage. Spreading blatant lies does not further the agenda of gays and trannys..
    I think your hatred of them is based on a fear, psychologically speaking I assume its fear of your own homosexuality.

    Yes you are to an extent gay...
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    It depends on what you mean by that? No tax benefits for any kind of union? No joint-filing status? No alimony or state action whatsover?

    Wives being legally no different than a girlfriend? Then hell yes I agree.
    Then you see clearly my son.
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    It could be any of those on the list. It could be all of those on the list.

    I tend to think of it as unenlightened. It is a fear. People are set in their ways and tend not to be open so much to change. If it was good enough for my mom and dada it must be....

    It is the idea that change is not so great and a person is lock step with the past. If everyone stopped and thought about how many gay/lesbian people they know in thier day to day experience it would be great. We are everywhere and we do not stick out like a sore thumb. Gays and lesbians are just like evryone else.
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not true. They would not be parallel institutions. One is religious, the other is not.
    As long as the GOVERNMENT is involved in marriage, that is incorrect. Your church can do whatever it wants, but the GOVERNMENT should not have two parallel institutions...certainly not a religious one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog
    I disagree. I think it would undermine the already weak foundations of marriage.
    How so? I can't envision any scenario in which the legalization of gay marriage causes a heterosexual couple to get a divorce...unless, of course, it's to marry a person of the same gender. But that isn't really the fault of gay marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog
    PS I need to clarify...

    I don't mean gay marriage would weaken it. I mean more government involvement.
    Gay marriage wouldn't result in any more government involvement. It would result in less, as the government would no longer be in the business of regulating who people can and can't marry, based on their gender.
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    It could be any of those on the list. It could be all of those on the list.

    I tend to think of it as unenlightened. It is a fear. People are set in their ways and tend not to be open so much to change. If it was good enough for my mom and dada it must be....

    It is the idea that change is not so great and a person is lock step with the past. If everyone stopped and thought about how many gay/lesbian people they know in thier day to day experience it would be great. We are everywhere and we do not stick out like a sore thumb. Gays and lesbians are just like evryone else.
    This is the first thing I have seen you post I actually agree with.

    Well said.
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