View Poll Results: If you oppose same-sex marriage, are you...

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  • ... ignorant?

    9 19.57%
  • ... bigoted?

    9 19.57%
  • ... homophobic?

    9 19.57%
  • ... stupid (which differs from ignorant)?

    6 13.04%
  • ... unreasonable?

    11 23.91%
  • ... unenlightened?

    7 15.22%
  • ... (all of the above)

    8 17.39%
  • ... (all of the above, as well as [specify])

    1 2.17%
  • ... (none of the above)

    18 39.13%
  • ... (other)

    11 23.91%
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    Even President Jefferson warned of the dangers of "precedent". Just because one set of Supreme Court Justices set a precedent as "X" doesn't mean that the next ought not assume "Y". We must always be a bit weary of the choices of our ancestors. We have not be dealt a perfect world by any means.
    If there's an issue with a givin ruling, fine, but to toss out the entire branch of governement like that is irational.

    I would no sooner dismiss the executive branch over a few executive orders, or dismiss the legislative branch for having codified Loving and Skinner since their ordering.

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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    It's funny this whole debate is an enigma for me in the long run.

    My secular Jeffersonian side thinks gay people should have all the benefits of marriage. My Christian side says it's wrong, so don't support it.

    I agree this country is not a theocracy, but it does reflect our Christian morals to a degree. I don't think there is any problem with that as long as no one's rights are infringed upon in a secular sense. So I am conflicted in my views.

    In the end though, I do side with God on this in that I think it is morally wrong. I consider God the final authority on the subject, so thats were my loyalty's lie.

    You can think I am homophobic which is not really true. You can claim I want to live in a theocracy, also not true. You are free to think all of this, and God bless you for it.


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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If there's an issue with a givin ruling, fine, but to toss out the entire branch of governement like that is irational.

    I would no sooner dismiss the executive branch over a few executive orders, or dismiss the legislative branch for having codified Loving and Skinner since their ordering.
    I may not dismiss the whole of say the executive branch over a few executive orders, but if the executive orders are misused, I would definitely move to restrain and restrict the executive branch from being able to use EO's abusively and would hold the particular politicians whom did abuse that power responsible for that abuse. Same with any branch. I don't believe marriage is a civil right, but I do believe that contract is a fundamental right.
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I may not dismiss the whole of say the executive branch over a few executive orders, but if the executive orders are misused, I would definitely move to restrain and restrict the executive branch from being able to use EO's abusively and would hold the particular politicians whom did abuse that power responsible for that abuse. Same with any branch. I don't believe marriage is a civil right, but I do believe that contract is a fundamental right.
    You didn't take issue with Loving or Skinner, you called SCOTUS precident "usless philociphy" without any qualifyer at all.

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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It's funny this whole debate is an enigma for me in the long run.

    My secular Jeffersonian side thinks gay people should have all the benefits of marriage. My Christian side says it's wrong, so don't support it.

    I agree this country is not a theocracy, but it does reflect our Christian morals to a degree. I don't think there is any problem with that as long as no one's rights are infringed upon in a secular sense. So I am conflicted in my views.

    In the end though, I do side with God on this in that I think it is morally wrong. I consider God the final authority on the subject, so thats were my loyalty's lie.

    You can think I am homophobic which is not really true. You can claim I want to live in a theocracy, also not true. You are free to think all of this, and God bless you for it.
    It's good to see I'm not the only one holding that point of view.

    I'll support gay marriage if/when gays bother to make it about the family. Imo it would then be a justifyable sin similer to justifyable homicide in consept.

    All this talk about civil rights, contracts, etc is just so much blah blah blah.

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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    If you oppose blacks and whites getting married : you're a racist.

    If you oppose rich people and poor people getting married : you're an elitist snob.

    If you oppose Muslims marrying Christians : you're a bigot.

    I wonder why we have no problem calling all these people for what they are but yet we're supposed to white wash the stance of bigots who oppose same sex marriage as 'a different opinion'? Give me a ****ing break.
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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If there's an issue with a givin ruling, fine, but to toss out the entire branch of governement like that is irational.

    I would no sooner dismiss the executive branch over a few executive orders, or dismiss the legislative branch for having codified Loving and Skinner since their ordering.
    There has been nothing rational or trustworthy about the United States Supreme Court. Get used to the idea that more and more people are realizing how screwed up our government is.
    There is nothing more dangerous to the liberty of Man than a Government or a Religion seizing upon the strings of an overdeveloped herd instinct amongst the people.

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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you oppose blacks and whites getting married : you're a racist.

    If you oppose rich people and poor people getting married : you're an elitist snob.

    If you oppose Muslims marrying Christians : you're a bigot.

    I wonder why we have no problem calling all these people for what they are but yet we're supposed to white wash the stance of bigots who oppose same sex marriage as 'a different opinion'? Give me a ****ing break.
    If you constantly assign slanderous names to people or groups with whom you disagree, you're a hyperpartizen hack best ignored.

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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    There has been nothing rational or trustworthy about the United States Supreme Court. Get used to the idea that more and more people are realizing how screwed up our government is.
    If that's true then why is pro-gm using Loving to get their way?

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    Re: If you oppose same-sex marriage, you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you oppose blacks and whites getting married : you're a racist.
    Not really. I know plenty of people who would not agree with the mixing of the races, this does not make them racist.

    Racism is the belief you are somehow better then someone else because of the race.

    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you oppose rich people and poor people getting married : you're an elitist snob.
    Yea thats true, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you oppose Muslims marrying Christians : you're a bigot.
    Depends on who you talk to, pretty subjective in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I wonder why we have no problem calling all these people for what they are but yet we're supposed to white wash the stance of bigots who oppose same sex marriage as 'a different opinion'? Give me a ****ing break.
    I am a bigot for following my religious doctrine? OK I can live with that.


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