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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    It's impossible to have a civil discussion here. I'm afraid few here would know what that looks like.
    Civil? Racists calling those pointing it out, racists. There's a laugh for you.
    Coon? N-word? Niggardly? It's not even code. It's bald-faced racism. And good ol' boys, slapping each other on the back, talking about how good they done.
    LOL. "Another notch on my stick, Zeke. How 'bout you Bubba? You good? Hehehe"
    It is a discussion on words and whether they are offensive or not. It's not as if these words are being thrown around in casual conversation all over the boards.

    If you can't handle a civil discussion on the topic then do not participate. It can't be any easier. There are threads that I can't tolerate without losing my mind so I avoid them like the plague.

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    Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?That said, you and jallman need to stop the personal attacks. Now. Debate the topic without calling each other racist, childish, etc.

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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    Yeah, but I didn't.
    Do they not count as racism?

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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's funny you say that because I get so disgusted with homos that cry foul against society like they have it sooooo bad. I, for one, have never really suffered any discrimination in my life for being gay. I have to wonder what some of these people who think life is so hard for a gay person now would have thought about being gay 30 or 40 years ago. I also wonder if, for all their bluster today, they would have had half the balls to back up a tenth of their conviction if they lived prior to the Stonewall Riots...
    I joined the GLF (Gay Liberation Front) about a month after the Stonewall Riots. We met in a Warehouse. That was where the first pride parade was born. It was in 1970 in June it went down Christopher Street in NY. It was a couple of days behind the first event in Chicago and the second one in San Francisco.

    The first pride parade was about 500 people at most. It was not what it is today. I believe that it should be toned down. I think as many of the old timers that we owe the rapid success of the movement to the many straight people that have supported us. We could not have gotten this far this fast with only 4% of the population.

    I for one am glad that the gays and lesbians of today are catching a break from what we went though in the early days. It was not always easy. It was a lot of work. I would love to see the laws for same sex marriage changes as I would like to marry the woman that i have been with for 37 years.
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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Understand exactly what you are saying. This gay relative of mine that I am still close to, she says the biggest problem with gay rights today is gay people. Twenty years from now, gay people are just going to be people, unless gay people choose to be otherwise. By pushing so hard now, this instant, gay people are, in a perverse way, pushing strait people to make laws that will have to be undone down the road.

    I would say though that I think that the thing that the older gay people, those who came out 30 or 40 years ago did that got us to this point was not the shock value stuff, or attack politics, but those gays who lived their lives with quiet dignity, and forced people to see that gay people are people first, gay second.
    I agree. That is why I say that the pride parades and events need to be toned down. I marched in many of the early ones and spoke at them as well. Now I stay home and watch TV. I do my activists thing where I am not faced by a bunch of people that because of the outrageous nature of some of the activities of the parades and events has so many people thinking we are perverts.

    Many of us that came out in the mid to late 60's find some of this stuff pretty hard to take.
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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I agree with that to a point. There's a lot to be said about quiet dignity and advancing by example. However, I don't think for a minute that taking to the streets wasn't necessary at one point in time. It is for almost every oppressed group at some point.

    I just think that time is long passed now and its time to advance our causes with reasoned debate, our purchasing power, and our votes.
    It was and still is necessary to take to the streets. One must maintain a certain dignity and decorum as they do this. We are in need of the straight peoples support and can not have the hard line right standing so against us. We need everyone to see that gay/lesbian is human and normal as well. It is just different.
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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    My thoughts on the gay pride parade stuff is that since they are routinely advertised to the community at large as family friendly they ought to be family friendly during the day. It would definitely be beneficial to have the more outlandish stuff way toned down throughout the day and then maybe bring that stuff out at night. Then advertise "daytime family friendly" and encourage the guys who absolutely need to wear assless chaps to wear them at night.

    It's one of those things that would be great to expose my kids to if it genuinely consisted of family friendly events on tolerance throughout the day. As it stands now only a complete dope would take little kids to a gay pride parade.

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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    My thoughts on the gay pride parade stuff is that since they are routinely advertised to the community at large as family friendly they ought to be family friendly during the day. It would definitely be beneficial to have the more outlandish stuff way toned down throughout the day and then maybe bring that stuff out at night. Then advertise "daytime family friendly" and encourage the guys who absolutely need to wear assless chaps to wear them at night.

    It's one of those things that would be great to expose my kids to if it genuinely consisted of family friendly events on tolerance throughout the day. As it stands now only a complete dope would take little kids to a gay pride parade.
    I get frustrated with those events. I don't find them kid and family friendly. About 6 years ago the parade planners in NY invited many of us back who had helped plan the first parade. They set us at the front as many of us don't get around so well anymore. I was glad of that. I was upset as were many of my old friends that I had not seen. The gay/lesbian community can be a joy and so much fun. Yet when left to try and present a family image they want to out flaunt the next person in the parade.

    I never found that the displays of some people in the parades is the correct thing to do. We are trying to show the world that we are like everyone else. Yes it is a festive parade but I do not need to see someones genitals to be festive.
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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    Yes it is a festive parade but I do not need to see someones genitals to be festive.
    To be fair, decorative balls can be pretty festive. Take Christmas ornaments, for example.

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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    To be fair, decorative balls can be pretty festive. Take Christmas ornaments, for example.
    Might be your best one yet.

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    Re: Are some words inherently offensive or is context important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    To be fair, decorative balls can be pretty festive. Take Christmas ornaments, for example.
    Being that I have never really been all that close to deorated balls I may be missing something!!!! On second thought maybe not. hehehehehe
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