If someone in your Family

Saboteur said:

Thank you again. I apologize for that last comment I was being a jerk. Really I am sorry.

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No problem. It was a heated debate, and both of us toed the line at times without ever officially crossing it. I apologize as well.

Like I said in the last post, you have truly earned my respect.

Tucker Case said:

Well, I must say that you've earned a great deal of respect from me for this post.

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It is an honor to have your respect. Perhaps we'll fight again but I'll never forget this.

Apparently I wasn't getting my point across before, and if not, I apologize. This was what I've been trying to say the whole time.

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Ah, how's that go? Denial is a river in egypt?

I'm trying to say it takes two to tango.

Hey what happened to your other post?

Saboteur said:

It is an honor to have your respect. Perhaps we'll fight again but I'll never forget this.

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Perhaps, or perhaps in the future we'll be fighting on the same side. You never know in this world how things go.

Ah, how's that go? Denial is a river in egypt?

I'm trying to say it takes two to tango.

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True. Which is why I apologized for the apparent lack of clarity to my posts. Sometimes the idea I have in my head doesn't translate perfectly into what I write down.

Sometimes it's not even close. :3oops:

I don't deny that my inability to put forth my thoughts effectively must have been at the very least a contributor, if not the primary cause, of our debate.

Hey what happened to your other post?

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I deleted it since I wrote it before I saw your response to my last one. It seemed inappropriate in light of the new situation and stuck out like a sore thumb.

Saboteur said:

If you can't commit to it I don't think you'll get much out of it. How about this question;

If torture is such an effective way to get information would you just spill the beans before even getting touched or would you tough it out even though you know you'll eventually break?

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how do you know you'll eventually break? some people are stronger than they think.

but if i knew i would eventually break, id still go through the torture, because it would be wrong going down without a fight. if the ship will sink then i shall go too.

Inferno said:

I don't know the reasons why this would have happened.
I don't know the motivation behind this act.

What would there be not to forgive? Just because you forgive someone does not mean you do not pursue justice or seek help for that person. It would be wrong not to forgive. It would be wrong to sweep it under the carpet and pretend that it had not happened.

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i agree here, after thinking about it for a while. its a complicated matter... and while murder and torture just arent humanly, in all reality it depends on the circumstance...

if you expect to be forgiven for your mistakes, you must learn to forgive others.