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Thread: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

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    Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Richard Belzer (partisan hack/wash-up) elaborates on why the troops' opinion of the war is irrelevant. Fact is, the troops don't read as many newspapers as Belzer - sage guru that he is - therefore they must not be as informed as him. I want to rant and rave right now, because this really pisses me off, but I won't. I'll just say this, should I ever see Belzer or Maher in public I got a big goober with their names written all over it. That's a promise.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlPC3Ni_fCc"]YouTube - Belzer & Maher Calling Our Troops Uneducated Idiots[/ame]

    So, my question is, do you agree with Belzer or Maher? Is there some underlying truth to their assertions or are they just a couple of elitist f***-heads?
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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Belzer and Maher are just your typical liberal douches. Like John Kerry and other liberal douches they have no problem belittling the troops.
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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    There are some remarkably uninformed people in the military. There are some remarkably informed people in the military. In other word, just like the civilian world.

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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Richard Belzer (partisan hack/wash-up) elaborates on why the troops' opinion of the war is irrelevant. Fact is, the troops don't read as many newspapers as Belzer - sage guru that he is - therefore they must not be as informed as him. I want to rant and rave right now, because this really pisses me off, but I won't. I'll just say this, should I ever see Belzer or Maher in public I got a big goober with their names written all over it. That's a promise.

    YouTube - Belzer & Maher Calling Our Troops Uneducated Idiots

    So, my question is, do you agree with Belzer or Maher? Is there some underlying truth to their assertions or are they just a couple of elitist f***-heads?
    Its just Hollywood thinking they know better than everybody else, about whats going on. They aren't privy to information on military situations outside of what the media reports, and they certainley aren't cognizant of the culture that makes up our military. Are there dumb people in the military? Sure. But they still know better about what they do, and what their mission is, than some hack like Maher does. These Hollywood types like to sit back and play armchair QB with the military and the government. Just as I like to think I could call a better play when my team isn't playing well, they think they know better how our military is to be used. But they don't really know what they are talking about, the same as I really don't know the situation down on the field/sidelines.
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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    To be a liberal, it's required to have a "world philosophy" and to think that you are the only one that's right all the time and know better than anyone else and that your "world philosophy" is perfect and can't possibly be wrong or have any bad effects. So, for Maher and Belzer, well, there is no surprise, they are liberals and really, really do think they are smarter and know better than everyone else.

    Here is something, let's make Maher and Belzer take the ASVAB, then let's see how they do.
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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Sorry, meant to click cognizant of their purpose as well.

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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Regardless of the argument Belzer made, the troops opinion of the war is irrelevant. It was irrelevant when Bush sent them to war and it's going to be irrelevant when Obama pulls them out. End of story. You don't sign up into the military to give your opinion. You forfeit that the moment you put your name down on the dotted line.
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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Regardless of the argument Belzer made, the troops opinion of the war is irrelevant. It was irrelevant when Bush sent them to war and it's going to be irrelevant when Obama pulls them out. End of story. You don't sign up into the military to give your opinion. You forfeit that the moment you put your name down on the dotted line.
    True, papers are signed to that effect.
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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    True, papers are signed to that effect.
    All this silly 5th grade bull**** about how our troops have opinions usually comes from both sides though at different times. Liberals do it when it comes to a soldier not wanting to go to Iraq and Conservatives when it's about a soldier who want to go back into that **** hole in the desert. It's always one of two reactions to the opinions of our troops. Tear jerk or HOW DARE YOU! How dare anyone insinuate that the agreement our VOLUNTEER MILITARY makes with the U.S. government leaves their opinion out of the equation. All this **** about troop opinions like they're starving ethnic groups in China. They knew what they were getting into. Their opinions are irrelevant. Left or Right slanted. End of story.
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    Re: Belzer and Maher, Smarter Than the Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    All this silly 5th grade bull**** about how our troops have opinions usually comes from both sides though at different times. Liberals do it when it comes to a soldier not wanting to go to Iraq and Conservatives when it's about a soldier who want to go back into that **** hole in the desert. It's always one of two reactions to the opinions of our troops. Tear jerk or HOW DARE YOU! How dare anyone insinuate that the agreement our VOLUNTEER MILITARY makes with the U.S. government leaves their opinion out of the equation. All this **** about troop opinions like they're starving ethnic groups in China. They knew what they were getting into. Their opinions are irrelevant. Left or Right slanted. End of story.
    The opinions of our troops are just as relevant as your opinion or mine, maybe a bit more. No, most of the troops will have no say in what mission they are assigned, but as long as we have a representative form of government, the opinions of our troops are not entirely irrelevant.

    The opinions of our troops should be consulted in terms of how they can best do the mission assigned, and what they need to do it. In that way, the opinions of our troops are more relevant than yours or mine.

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