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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    They loaned billions to Chrysler....and then told them to go into bankruptcy.
    The auto bailout was announced on the 19 of December, a full month before Obama took office. It was not Clinton or Congress that authorized the bailout, but the Bush administration.

    No one told Chrysler "to go into bankruptcy", but instead, they where given a deadline to make deals. As I understand it, the union made the concessions needed, but the holders of Chrysler's debt refused any deal offered, since they get more money if Chrysler goes into bankruptcy. I wish I could remember where I saw the interesting article on the hedge funds that are buying up debt of companies in trouble, it's a pretty bizarre setup.

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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    This man does not represent my party
    look at the voting record for the stimulus bill and explain to me how the original post isn't represenative of the Republican party.

    that guy IS the party. I absolutely do not think all Republicans are like him, however, I do think he is the net effect.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Once government spending in inside Constitutional limits, we're so over taxed the debt will be paid down.
    There are Constitutional limits on how much we can spend? Care to cite that figure from the COTUS?

    It's not hard. Read Article 1, Section 8. If the desired spending isn't specificaly authorized in that section, it's not authorized.
    Too bad that entire section is vague.

    That means, for example, the entire federal budget for education isn't allowed. Socialist Security is a no-no, Medicaire, and agricultural price supports, FHA loans, and all forms of welfare. Also, there absolutely no authority for any form of nationalized health care
    Ah another stupid general welfare argument. I'm not going to take the bait.

    I'm not your dictionary.
    I know. Many people don't have one. Hence why I ask people to get one.

    Needless to say, the meaning of the word "nationalize" is "obvious".
    Not really.

    Study "Singin' in the Rain". I ain't people.
    Well, if it's so obvious as to what the definition is, then you should be able to tell me if that is nationalization or not since others have called that nationalization.

    Well, put up or shutup.

    Last time I checked, we're discussing the national GOP. But if some states want to be retarded and lose revenues by denying drilling on their land, fine.
    Retarded? How is severely reducing tourism "retarded?" How is severely damaging water supplies during major droughts "retarded?" How is destroying fishing and other agricultural and tourism attractions "retarded?"

    Diversification is a good idea. Learn it.

    Only a Democrat would declare the need for a dictator. Aren't ya glad you elected one finally?
    So Reagan was a Democrat? Huh. Alright. If you say so.

    Oh, I forgot. You don't know what "unconstitutional" means.
    See #1.

    How about not ordering the states to do things the federal government isn't allowed to finance? How about respecting the Tenth Amendment, something the ball-less state legislatures should have been insisting on since Wilson took office.
    Again, See #1. I'm not playing that general welfare game.

    Seems like China needs to apologize about Mongolia, Tuvalu seems to be an internal squabble we had nothing to do with. In either case, clearly the US doesn't need to apologize.
    Apparently you missed the "our record is cleaner" statement you made. I'll let you catch up.

    Oh, you mean they deemed that public broadcasts need a minimum level of decency? So? People that want to watch trash can pay for private channels, what's the big deal? There's no First Amendment issues here.
    Yay! More government intervention. Yay! More government telling us what to do! Yay more government not letting the market decide! Yay Socialism!

    Oh wait. What are we arguing for?

    Do you think its funny that because the opposite that list is what's really happening the nation is swirling down the crapper?
    I think your list is ridiculous partisan and quite funny actually.
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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    look at the voting record for the stimulus bill and explain to me how the original post isn't represenative of the Republican party.

    that guy IS the party. I absolutely do not think all Republicans are like him, however, I do think he is the net effect.
    I couldn't be happier that all but 3 republicans said "no" to the biggest waste of money in American history. It's not the general message I'm against, it's his intolerant, hyperpartisan undertones.

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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So Reagan was a Democrat? Huh. Alright. If you say so.
    You were doing so well until you said this....

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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The auto bailout was announced on the 19 of December, a full month before Obama took office. It was not Clinton or Congress that authorized the bailout, but the Bush administration.
    So you don't live in the real world.

    I can understand that. No one living in the real world would vote for a Democrat.

    In the real world, bills are written by Congress and signed by the President.

    In the real world, the automaker bailout was passed by the current Congress and signed by the current President.

    Those are facts you might want to deal with, if you ever wish to see what the real world is like.


    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one told Chrysler "to go into bankruptcy",
    Nonsense.

    Pay attention to the news.

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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    look at the voting record for the stimulus bill and explain to me how the original post isn't represenative of the Republican party.
    Clearly it is not representative of the scum Republicans in office. They're publicly afraid to say no.

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    that guy IS the party.
    Clearly not true, take a lookee at the scum Republicans in office that all have their tongues probing Democrat uvula from the back door.

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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I couldn't be happier that all but 3 republicans said "no" to the biggest waste of money in American history. It's not the general message I'm against, it's his intolerant, hyperpartisan undertones.
    Damn straight I'm intolerant.

    I don't like slave masters. You expect I should tolerate them? Whassamatta with you?

    I don't like elected trash with a known willingness to compromise my freedoms for their advantage. You prefer people that are tolerant in their chains? Whassamatta with you?

    You can't read the Constitution? Whassamatta with you?

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    Re: The Party of No

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    There are Constitutional limits on how much we can spend? Care to cite that figure from the COTUS?
    Care to read the Constitution, instead?


    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Too bad that entire section is vague.
    That entire section is explicit.

    Learn how to read.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Ah another stupid general welfare argument. I'm not going to take the bait.
    So you agree public funding for education isn't constitutional.

    Good for you.

    Now find the guts to admit it.

    Oh, you want to pretend it does? Then you're arguing against Thomas Jefferson.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Not really.
    Well, not for you. For people who can read the Constitution it is, and for those of us that own a dictionary, too.

    This is the best you can do?

    Then you're wasting my time.

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    Re: The Party of No

    i'd like to thank you for turning your party into a group of irrelevant cranks

    it benefits me politically
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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