View Poll Results: What Should the Republican Party Focus On?

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  • Fiscal Conservatism

    46 92.00%
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    8 16.00%
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    12 24.00%
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Thread: How to Revive the Republican Party

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You can't recall the 2000 primary season in New York, when Al D'Amato ordered the conservative Rrepublican to stand down so some liberal weenie Republican could run unopposed to have a better shot (yeah right) at defeating the Red Queen Carpetbagger.
    The conservative Republican in question was under no legal obligation to step down, and would've been the nominee had he run and received more votes than the "liberal weenie Republican," and would've been the senator had he run and received more votes than the "Red Queen Carpetbagger."

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    Oh, certainly, the state political machines had no say in getting GW Bush nominated in 2000, right, over all the other candidates, right?
    GW Bush won the nomination because he received more votes than the other Republican candidates.

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    The reason Paul didn't get nominated was the He's A Dweeb Effect. That, and the media refused to give credence to his ideas, they being far too interested in Guilliani (liberal) and Romney (liberal) and McCain (liberal).
    The media actually gave him far more attention than his vote percentage deserved...and he still came nowhere close to winning. And if you'll recall, Mike Huckabee came reasonably close to winning the primary despite receiving almost no media coverage until the last couple weeks before the voting began.

    And if you're just going to whine that the media isn't fair, my advice is to get over it. Start your own 24/7 cable news channel that sings the praises of Ron Paul or Lyndon LaRouche or Alan Keyes or whatever other nutcase you want. If their ideas are truly as popular as you think, then you should have millions of viewers.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    "Democracy lasts until citizens realize they can vote themselves largesse from the treasury. Collapse follows due to loose fiscal policy..."

    Whatever the origins of that statement (and I know they've been disputed), it seems all too depressingly accurate.

    I have this really bad feeling that we're going to have to take this trend to its extreme conclusion, and suffer the dire consequences, before the electorate learns better.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    "Democracy lasts until citizens realize they can vote themselves largesse from the treasury. Collapse follows due to loose fiscal policy..."

    Whatever the origins of that statement (and I know they've been disputed), it seems all too depressingly accurate.

    I have this really bad feeling that we're going to have to take this trend to its extreme conclusion, and suffer the dire consequences, before the electorate learns better.

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    I think that only happens in countries where the population is highly uneducated about roots of problems. For instance, that is a real problem in many Latin America countries and how their economic growth has really slowed in the last century.

    However, if you look at Europe and their modest grow with many of their conservative leadership, democracies could easily correct from too much wealth distribution.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    There has been a lot of talk recently about the soul-searching the republican party is doing, after its losses last election.

    What do you think republicans need to focus on, in order to win back its appeal?

    Fiscal Conservatism - balancing the budget, small government, ending corporate bailouts, ending certain social programs.

    Social Conservatism - opposition to same-sex marriage, abortion, and other hot button issues.

    National Defense - increase military spending and recruitment, more aggressive international policies.

    Nationalism - oppose multiculturalism, english as an official language, more immigration control.
    Step number one should be to remove Rush Limbaugh as the face of the GOP. Then I'll take you're party seriously.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    We could use something dynamic. Newt did it with a contract with America. I would suggest strict term limits on the Congresscritters. Couple that with a strict conservative agenda. I am a believer that we have a strong voting public on our side, but they haven't had anybody to vote for. This administration will help get out our voters, as they self-destruct.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The conservative Republican in question was under no legal obligation to step down,
    Welcome to the real world of politics. Glad you could finally make it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    GW Bush won the nomination because he received more votes than the other Republican candidates.
    You had help figuring that out, right? Now, ask the difficult question....how did he manage to do that, without any preliminary groundwork? Because he pulled favors from his old man's friends and bent influential state organizers.

    Duh.

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    The media actually gave him far more attention than his vote percentage deserved...and he still came nowhere close to winning. And if you'll recall, Mike Huckabee came reasonably close to winning the primary despite receiving almost no media coverage until the last couple weeks before the voting began.
    Gee, and like you're trying to disprove my statement that the media focused exclusively on the people they wanted to win, instead of covering the campaign fully and honestly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And if you're just going to whine that the media isn't fair, my advice is to get over it. Start your own 24/7 cable news channel that sings the praises of Ron Paul or Lyndon LaRouche or Alan Keyes or whatever other nutcase you want. If their ideas are truly as popular as you think, then you should have millions of viewers.
    You have no issues with the corruption of the Fourth Estate?

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I think that only happens in countries where the population is highly uneducated about roots of problems.
    The United States is one of those countries.

    The roots of today's problems can be traced to Wilson, the sapling was watered by FDR, the mature tree was fertilized by LBJ, and the fruits are being gathered by today's Democrat leaders.

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    However, if you look at Europe and their modest grow with many of their conservative leadership, democracies could easily correct from too much wealth distribution.
    They socialist leadership causing slow to negative growth in Europe.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    I'm gonna put away my partisan hat and approach this as it is.

    On CNN.com there was a Facebook member who posted this:

    get rid of people such as ann coulter, rush limbaugh, and dick cheney who are helping to alienate moderate voters. Right now the Republican Party seems like a 'clique group.' There's a lot of name calling and not a lot of working together to get this country fixed.
    I agree with this quote. The party has moved far too much to the right. I'm not saying that Coulter and Limbaugh and Cheney are the leaders of the party, but they really need to shut up and stop making other Republicans who want the party to thrive look bad.

    The party needs to focus on attracting moderate voters, because that is something the Dems did pretty well. If Obama's plans work out quite well, then the party is screwed because they would be the viewed as the party that said "no" to everything in the beginning. The party needs to start saying yes to things that are progressive and helpful in nature. If they want to come back strong, there are some things they need to give up in the name of partisanship and just go along with what is right.

    For example, the recent move by Obama to cut away tax loopholes for big business and the wealthy. EVERY taxpayer in this country should be supporting this, but nonetheless some Republicans continue to claim that this is a "tax hike" when it is actually a "crackdown." This is a big one, because of Reps try to unanimously vote against this, then its just a bigger nail in the coffin.


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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Catman View Post
    We could use something dynamic. Newt did it with a contract with America. I would suggest strict term limits on the Congresscritters. Couple that with a strict conservative agenda. I am a believer that we have a strong voting public on our side, but they haven't had anybody to vote for. This administration will help get out our voters, as they self-destruct.
    I agree. We haven't had a conservative candidate since Reagan. We also need to paint our own picture of ourselves. We've been real good at standing back and letting the MSM define the republican party. And there have been enough RINOs like Specter, Snow and Collins to lend credence to the MSMs definition. We have to take back our brand and market it.

    Screw this big tent stuff. What do we need a tent for. A tent of any size implies boundaries. Why do we want to limit ourselves? Let's emphasize low taxes, low government and strong defense. Let's start to follow the Constitution again. We have enough serious problems right now that all the social issues rank near the bottom of importance in most polls. So let's just leave them alone. If questioned about the social stuff, the answer should be that that's up to the states to decide.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The United States is one of those countries.

    The roots of today's problems can be traced to Wilson, the sapling was watered by FDR, the mature tree was fertilized by LBJ, and the fruits are being gathered by today's Democrat leaders.
    Partially, but interestingly, countries that are more socialist tend to have better public education systemes so their populations are better resistant to poor politicians (with everything else constant). And our population is still smart enough to have a backlash against large governments. (see Reagan)

    They socialist leadership causing slow to negative growth in Europe.
    Their economic growth is SLOWED but it isn't negative purely because of socialist policies. (our economy is also in negative growth, but that is because of the world economy, not because of our policies per-say)

    I am just against people who say that social-democratic/mob-democracy countries can't stay solvent because of constant increased in the wealth distribution in countries. Europe is an example of the strengths of social-democracy and welfare state.

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