View Poll Results: What Should the Republican Party Focus On?

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    46 92.00%
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    8 16.00%
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    12 24.00%
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Thread: How to Revive the Republican Party

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I know it ain't gonna happen, but that's what should happen. Replace the GOP with an actual small government party. Two big government parties just isn't working out well for us I fear.
    You mean, have two parties that don't echo each other's ideas and become completely indistiginguishable when the elections are over?

    Nah, that would never work. It would require voters to use the brains and backbones they don't have.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
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    Making the country avoid a depression is more important then the Constitution, sorry.

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    So you are saying the US Constitution is basically worthless. Those currently in power can do whatever they please because.... well, whatever they want to do is more important than the US Constitution.

    Sounds like a stupid idea to me, but then what would an outsider know.


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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You mean, have two parties that don't echo each other's ideas and become completely indistiginguishable when the elections are over?

    Nah, that would never work. It would require voters to use the brains and backbones they don't have.
    Or...
    Perhaps the fact that we have a big government party and a bigger government party is an indication that the American people don't WANT smaller government. If the people actually wanted a smaller government, I assure you that at least one (if not both) of the main parties would step up to meet their needs.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Or...
    Perhaps the fact that we have a big government party and a bigger government party is an indication that the American people don't WANT smaller government. If the people actually wanted a smaller government, I assure you that at least one (if not both) of the main parties would step up to meet their needs.
    Why, when they're constituted to meet the needs of their leaders, not the people they con into subscribing to them?

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Why, when they're constituted to meet the needs of their leaders, not the people they con into subscribing to them?
    The party members, not the leaders, nominate almost every single candidate who runs for office.

    There is a very simple reason why Ron Paul-type candidates are almost never nominated (let alone elected): That isn't what the American people want. The American people obviously want larger government.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The party members, not the leaders, nominate almost every single candidate who runs for office.

    There is a very simple reason why Ron Paul-type candidates are almost never nominated (let alone elected): That isn't what the American people want. The American people obviously want larger government.
    You mean they nominate the candidate the media tell them to nominate.

    The US citizens is too busy watching Idol, Dancing with the Stars, Survivor, etc to educate themselves about something as trivial as the leaders of the country. Its so much easier to just go with what the pundits or, even better, Jon Stewart says.


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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    So you are saying the US Constitution is basically worthless. Those currently in power can do whatever they please because.... well, whatever they want to do is more important than the US Constitution.

    Sounds like a stupid idea to me, but then what would an outsider know.


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    Well, that is effectively how the country's been run since FDR used the Constitution as his diaper, isn't it?
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    You mean they nominate the candidate the media tell them to nominate.

    The US citizens is too busy watching Idol, Dancing with the Stars, Survivor, etc to educate themselves about something as trivial as the leaders of the country. Its so much easier to just go with what the pundits or, even better, Jon Stewart says.


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    So that falls under people getting the government they deserve?

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The party members, not the leaders, nominate almost every single candidate who runs for office.
    You believe that with all your heart, do you?

    You can't recall the 2000 primary season in New York, when Al D'Amato ordered the conservative Rrepublican to stand down so some liberal weenie Republican could run unopposed to have a better shot (yeah right) at defeating the Red Queen Carpetbagger.

    Oh, certainly, the state political machines had no say in getting GW Bush nominated in 2000, right, over all the other candidates, right?

    Do grow up, okay? Real politics is nasty, dirty, and not for idealistic little girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There is a very simple reason why Ron Paul-type candidates are almost never nominated (let alone elected): That isn't what the American people want. The American people obviously want larger government.

    The reason Paul didn't get nominated was the He's A Dweeb Effect. That, and the media refused to give credence to his ideas, they being far too interested in Guilliani (liberal) and Romney (liberal) and McCain (liberal).

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    The American people are simply willing to accept larger government in order to get what they want. Democrats use the government to push for large amounts of funding for vast social programs and a nanny state. Republicans use the government to be the morality police and trade civil liberties for the illusion of safety.

    The public will cheerfully trade small government in order to get a welfare check and be molested by the TSA. The fundamental problem with small government as a political objective, is that you need to gain vast amounts of centralized power in order to make any changes in Washington. Once a political party has gained such power, they are not willing to give up by making government smaller.

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