View Poll Results: What Should the Republican Party Focus On?

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Thread: How to Revive the Republican Party

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    Because it sure as hell beats being wherever they came from.
    Hmm why would they want to change it so radically then?
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Can I please have an explanation about why so many (obviously not that many, or else he wouldn't have been nominated) Republicans hate McCain so much? Without including McCain-Feingold in the answer?
    The real Americans have always disliked and distrusted McCain. They didn't even like him in last year's election, even if they voted for him in self-defense against the Kenyan.

    McCain...you know, junior partner of the Keating Five?

    you know, architect and interferer in the so-called Tobacco Settlement?

    you know, McCain, Mr. "Let's Give Our Country to the Mexican Invaders"?

    you know, McCain, who opposed more of Bush's tax cuts?

    McCain did a lot of Democrat work.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    Because it sure as hell beats being wherever they came from,
    Then they shouldn't bitch, and they should most certainly STOP trying to make the United States just like the place they left.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The real Americans have always disliked and distrusted McCain. They didn't even like him in last year's election, even if they voted for him in self-defense against the Kenyan.

    McCain...you know, junior partner of the Keating Five?

    you know, architect and interferer in the so-called Tobacco Settlement?

    you know, McCain, Mr. "Let's Give Our Country to the Mexican Invaders"?

    you know, McCain, who opposed more of Bush's tax cuts?

    McCain did a lot of Democrat work.
    lol thats the problem with the Republican party, if they have politicians that are just a reactionary force to the other side then no one will take them seriously. :P

    and there must be something wrong with the voters if they are willing to stick with a politicians that they truely dislike...

    Even though Obama sucks, at least people liked him when they cast a vote for him.


    The Republican party needs to get some principles (even if they are wrong) to attract people.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    public opinion can change, however I think the momentum towards same-sex marriage is way to strong for that to be at all likely to happen.
    I agree but I think that has a lot more to do with the media, Hollywood and corporate liberalism than any deep felt need among the average person.


    I don't think its that complicated. I want the same right to marry a woman that any man has. gay and bisexual men want the same right to marry a man that any woman has.

    simply put, the right to marry should not depend on the sex of either partner.

    an argument could be made that marriage laws discriminate on the basis of sex, rather than sexual orientation, but that would imply that the disproportionate affect they have on GLBT people was accidental, rather than the intentional and systematic method of excluding GLBT people that they are.
    Yes but those are quite specific demands, not easily covered by simply demanding "equal rights". What Conservatives do not need is to engage in generalised calls for equality.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The real Americans have always disliked and distrusted McCain. They didn't even like him in last year's election, even if they voted for him in self-defense against the Kenyan.

    you know, McCain, Mr. "Let's Give Our Country to the Mexican Invaders"?
    I'm so glad you aren't on our side of the aisle.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    I would point the readers to an interesting point of view expressed by Glenn Beck (yes, Beck!).

    Picture a horizontal straight line. On the left end is 100% government or totalitarianism. On the right end is no government at all or anarchy.

    The founders orignally designed a government that was just to the left of anarchy (the far right end of the line). It was governed by the Articles of Confederation. But that didn't work.

    So they moved a bit to the left on the line, but still quite right of center, and drafted the Constitution. That is where we started.

    It served us well for a while, but in the 1890s or early 1900s, under the progressive movement, the country began to creep leftward along the line. That creeping accelerated with the New Deal and continued leftward with the Great Society. It continues today with our apparent march toward socialism under Obama, until on that magic horizontal line, we now find ourselves well left of center on the line and trending toward totalitarianism.

    As far as the two parties go, they are now basically at the same left of center point on the line (in other words, there ain't a damn bit of difference between them). To distinguish their cosmetic differences, you need to go to a vertical line. Put democrats or republicans on the top or bottom - your choice - it doesn't matter. Use it to distinguish their differences on social issues. The point is that they're on the same place on that horizontal plane.

    To revive the republican party, it is going to have to redefine a point on that horizontal plane that is back to the right towards the Constitution. It need to establish and ennumerate goals for the size and scope of the federal government and reestablish what is more appropriate to be decided by the states. Some individual states, Texas for one, are realilzing that the powers of the federal government are way out of control and enacting legislation that bring them back in line with the original meaning of the Constitution.

    The republicans have to once again recognize things like states rights (no racist connotations meant or accepted) and local school control and start to reject things like federal mandates that are not enumarated in the Constitution.

    Only when republicans once again become the party of limited government, lower taxes and strong national defense will they have a chance at a party revival.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Limit the number of issues....
    the more issues we have to argue about, the more fragmented the party becomes.
    Leave the social issues to the states, forget about what the "majority" wants when it comes to sexual orientation issues. The courts have to decide on those issue, not the voters.
    A stronger economy, establishing educational standards for the states to implement, and more domestic sources of energy are the 3 most important planks at the moment.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    It served us well for a while, but in the 1890s or early 1900s, under the progressive movement, the country began to creep leftward along the line. That creeping accelerated with the New Deal and continued leftward with the Great Society. It continues today with our apparent march toward socialism under Obama, until on that magic horizontal line, we now find ourselves well left of center on the line and trending toward totalitarianism.
    I've always sort of found it funny, most of the first progressives were racists. remember this guy? :



    The progressives here on this board sure do, unfortunately, maybe not well enough.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    I've always sort of found it funny, most of the first progressives were racists. remember this guy? :



    The progressives here on this board sure do, unfortunately, maybe not well enough.
    racist and elitest.....helped keep essential education from the masses...
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