View Poll Results: What Should the Republican Party Focus On?

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  • Fiscal Conservatism

    46 92.00%
  • Social Conservatism

    8 16.00%
  • National Defense

    12 24.00%
  • Nationalism

    5 10.00%
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Thread: How to Revive the Republican Party

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Send him on a fact finding mission to Austria....
    Or better yet... have him follow Arlen Specter to the Democrat side of the aisle. That would be the surest method of making sure the MSM never covers him again. Though he still might be able to muck things up over there.


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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    I voted fiscal conservatism. There are still a lot of people who believe that the function of government should be limited.

    Social conservatism is a dying philosophy. The US is gradually becoming more liberal on issues such as GLBT rights and reproductive rights. This is especially noticeable when you look at the voting patterns of different age groups.

    National defense might become important to a large number of Americans if another disaster happens, but right now it doesn't seem to be a high priority.

    Nationalism alienates large segments of the population, especially as the US becomes more diverse.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Or better yet... have him follow Arlen Specter to the Democrat side of the aisle. That would be the surest method of making sure the MSM never covers him again. Though he still might be able to muck things up over there.

    Sounds good to me. We'd love to have him. We'll take Sue Collins and Olympia Snowe too if the Republicans don't want them.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    On Social Conservatism - Its an old and slowly dying platform.
    With tens of millions of advocates.

    We are getting to a point where more and more issues will become progressive in nature and stay that way. For example, gay marriage. Whether you like it or not, we are slowly but surely getting to a state where same-sex marriage is legal everywhere.
    Even though a large majority of citizens oppose it...

    Many conservative ideals are just holding the country back from "growing up." Slavery was supported by mostly supported by Reps and most Dems were against it. I don't know if slavery itself is conservative or liberal in nature, but it and even segregation seemed to be conservative bullet points.
    Sorry, bigtime Fail. Lincoln was Republican; the party of slavery was actually the Democrat party.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    It is good to see a good measure of support for social conservatism in this poll. The Quest for community, to use Nisbet's phrasing, has not been abandoned yet it seems.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Or better yet... have him follow Arlen Specter to the Democrat side of the aisle. That would be the surest method of making sure the MSM never covers him again. Though he still might be able to muck things up over there.

    Damn, you didn't get my joke.

    You wanted him locked in a basement and I said send him to Austria because of its recent history of basement detainees..get it.


    I thought it was pretty funny.
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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    It is good to see a good measure of support for social conservatism in this poll. The Quest for community, to use Nisbet's phrasing, has not been abandoned yet it seems.
    When people say they oppose social conservativism, they usually mean the social conservativism as defined by GWB. GWB perverted what social conservativism really is.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Damn, you didn't get my joke.

    You wanted him locked in a basement and I said send him to Austria because of its recent history of basement detainees..get it.


    I thought it was pretty funny.
    Ah... okay. I've intentionally avoided the Austrian basement story. Didn't make the connection. Had to google it.


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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    On Social Conservatism - Its an old and slowly dying platform.
    With tens of millions of advocates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    We are getting to a point where more and more issues will become progressive in nature and stay that way. For example, gay marriage. Whether you like it or not, we are slowly but surely getting to a state where same-sex marriage is legal everywhere.
    Even though a large majority of citizens oppose it...
    overall, opponents of same-sex marriage are still the majority of the country, but their numbers are diminishing.

    One poll released this month indicated that 42% of americans are in favor of same-sex marriage. Another poll indicated that 49% were in favor, while only 46% opposed it.

    Just 10 years ago, only about 35% supported same-sex marriage.

    People between 18 and 45 are more than twice as likely to support same-sex marriage than people over 65.

    At the rate that public opinion is changing, I predict that 10 years from now, the majority of Americans will support full marriage equality.

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    Re: How to Revive the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    overall, opponents of same-sex marriage are still the majority of the country, but their numbers are diminishing.

    One poll released this month indicated that 42% of americans are in favor of same-sex marriage. Another poll indicated that 49% were in favor, while only 46% opposed it.

    Just 10 years ago, only about 35% supported same-sex marriage.

    People between 18 and 45 are more than twice as likely to support same-sex marriage than people over 65.

    At the rate that public opinion is changing, I predict that 10 years from now, the majority of Americans will support full marriage equality.
    Yes but how much is that due to pressure from the media and liberal establishment? That pressure is unlikely to change but what if it did? What if a more traditionalist media and culture did grow up to replace that of the MSM, Hollywood and corporate liberalism?

    And as we have been through here many times. The term equality in such a generalised way is very vague when applied to the specifics of this debate. It has to be used narrowly as they lack the equality to marry people of their own sex they want to over 18 and who can give consent rather than having equal rights to do the same only to one of the opposite sex. Hardly a simple case of "full equality".
    Last edited by Wessexman; 05-02-09 at 08:34 AM.
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