View Poll Results: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

Voters
54. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes, because...

    6 11.11%
  • No, because...

    46 85.19%
  • Other

    2 3.70%
Page 5 of 32 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 313

Thread: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

  1. #41
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    48,237

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    If someone has a gun and they want to kill someone they should be able to do that. However, that doesn't mean that they should be able to kill many people at once with an assult rifle.
    What if the many people are government officials looking to arrest people and take their land?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  2. #42
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    13,896

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What if the many people are government officials looking to arrest people and take their land?
    They are going to take it, because they are better armed than you are. Thats why the founders did not want the government heavily armed.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  3. #43
    Educator nerv14's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last Seen
    02-07-11 @ 06:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    601

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, yelling fire in a crowded building puts those people at direct risk and thus infringes upon their rights. Our rights end at the rights of others. Me owning a gun does not innately infringe upon the rights of anyone else.
    But if someone has an assult rifle that also can put me at risk.

    Hell, someone else driving next to me on the road puts me at risk. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights doesn't have to do with protecting us in that way.

    And where are you not allowed to put someone at risk? and how is that infringing on their rights?


    My whole point is that you can't take the Bill of Rights completely literally. In effect, if you take everything COMPLETELY literally then most things have no value in real life. we are the ones that have to judge that.


    The Bill of Rights says that no laws can be used to subvert the amendments on the Bill of Rights anyway.

    "Article the eleventh [Amendment IX]

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

  4. #44
    Educator nerv14's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last Seen
    02-07-11 @ 06:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    601

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What if the many people are government officials looking to arrest people and take their land?
    A rebellion isn't won by confronting the government in every turn, you just need enough weapons to take certain locations and slow the gov down everywhere else.

    its ok though, you have an asuka avatar! evangelion is awesome, even though ive outgrown it, it is my favorite fictional story.
    Last edited by nerv14; 04-27-09 at 10:25 PM.

  5. #45
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    48,237

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    They are going to take it, because they are better armed than you are. Thats why the founders did not want the government heavily armed.
    I agree that the government is heavily armed, more so than the founders wanted. Fighting against them would be very very tough indeed, but we need to be afforded the tools to do so.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  6. #46
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Seen
    09-22-16 @ 07:06 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29,215

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I agree that the government is heavily armed, more so than the founders wanted. Fighting against them would be very very tough indeed, but we need to be afforded the tools to do so.
    In the event of a rebellion I'd bet the government would take over all weapons and ammo manufactures. I bet the government has a lot more bullets than the rebels.

  7. #47
    Another day in paradise..
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 02:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    67,947

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    In the event of a rebellion I'd bet the government would take over all weapons and ammo manufactures. I bet the government has a lot more bullets than the rebels.



    That's what the british thought.


    Matthew 10:34
    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

  8. #48
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Seen
    09-22-16 @ 07:06 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29,215

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    That's what the british thought.
    I'd think the rebels would need out side help like the French in the Revolution.

  9. #49
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    48,237

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    In the event of a rebellion I'd bet the government would take over all weapons and ammo manufactures. I bet the government has a lot more bullets than the rebels.
    Then we'll hold off till we see the whites of their eyes. What does it matter? It's hopeless and we shouldn't try? We should just accept our eventual subjugation to the government and behave like good little serfs and just work and work so the aristocracy can get richer through the corruption and perversion of government and oligopoly capitalism? Real nice.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  10. #50
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Seen
    09-22-16 @ 07:06 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29,215

    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Then we'll hold off till we see the whites of their eyes. What does it matter? It's hopeless and we shouldn't try? We should just accept our eventual subjugation to the government and behave like good little serfs and just work and work so the aristocracy can get richer through the corruption and perversion of government and oligopoly capitalism? Real nice.
    I'm just entertaining the idea of an actual Revolution and how it could potentially play out via an armed public.

Page 5 of 32 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •