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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I wonder if the people that think this makes a "strong case for the reinstatement of the Assault Weapons Ban" will address these issues with Carter's piece...
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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Because they are not necessary. You don't need a mega-powerful gun to defend yourself. Some weapons can do nothing but make murder more efficient and I don't see what advantages there are in not banning them.
    The purpose of the Second Amendment is to ensure the people have in their possession the means of overthrowing a tyrannical government. That means....so-called "assualt" weapons.

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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The purpose of the Second Amendment is to ensure the people have in their possession the means of overthrowing a tyrannical government. That means....so-called "assualt" weapons.
    It was actually more to keep the government from having large standing armies. The idea was that if there were well armed and organized local militias, the federal government could call upon them to defend the nation if needed. Since the means of national defense would then primarily lie with the people, the government could never become tyrannical.
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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    so by that logic you are for banning:


    cigarettes
    suv's
    motorcycles
    excessivly large tv's
    buffets
    fatty foods


    i can go on ad nauseum if you would like.
    Afraid I don't follow you... I'm not for banning unnecessary things, just unnecessary things which help murderers achieve their goals.

    If they are more efficient at "murder" then by the same logic, would they not be also more efficient at preventing murder?
    Not really. If you want to defend yourself, you don't need much more than something easily capable of killing a guy; beyond a point it just becomes excessive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm not trying to be difficult here - understand that I am genuinely curious.
    Which specific 'assault weapons' do you believe should be banned?
    Can you name one or more?
    No, and I will be completely honest here, but I don't know much about guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The purpose of the Second Amendment is to ensure the people have in their possession the means of overthrowing a tyrannical government. That means....so-called "assualt" weapons.
    So then it's OK for individual citizens to own nuclear weapons? After all, the Second Amendment only said "arms", not "guns".

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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Jimmy Carter's argument for banning assault weapons is a horrible one.

    A much better argument would be to point out since the desire to own an assault weapon is an obvious coping mechanism to compensate for personal inadequacies such as:

    Below average penis size.
    Premature ejaculation.
    Latent Homosexuality.
    Impotence.
    Inferiority Complexes.

    It's quite detrimental to the mental health of individuals who use assault weapons as such a coping / compensation mechanism as it impairs their ability to undergo successful treatment for those types of issues. After all, why else would they care so much about the ability to own a cheap Russian or Chinese made assault weapon? Owning these weapons prevents them from coming to terms with these personal inadequacies, thus for public health, they should be banned.
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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It was actually more to keep the government from having large standing armies. The idea was that if there were well armed and organized local militias, the federal government could call upon them to defend the nation if needed. Since the means of national defense would then primarily lie with the people, the government could never become tyrannical.
    Nope.

    Re-read Federalist 28. The Second Amendment was to ensure that if the local or federal government subverted the militia's the people still had recourse to their own weapons to defend their liberties.

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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    So then it's OK for individual citizens to own nuclear weapons? After all, the Second Amendment only said "arms", not "guns".
    Gee, I said "assualt" weapons, didn't I?

    You can't argue against what's posted so you have to go nuclear non-sequitur on us, or what?

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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    No - the word petulant comes to mind, like me and all your leaders decided, and it passed before, and it was good and you liked it, so why isn't it still there? I mean, Charlton "From My Cold Dead Hand" Heston, baby, look no further!

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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Most of Carter's reasons seemed pretty poor, but I agree with him in that assult weapons can kill many people at once.

    Even though I roughly consider myself pro-gun, my reason are for hunting, self defence, overthrowing this gov, protection against invasions, and getting rid of ascess to all types of guns doesn't reduce crime.

    and i dont' see how those reasons will be impeded by getting rid of assult weapons.

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    Re: Is this a "strong argument" for banning 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Because they are not necessary. You don't need a mega-powerful gun to defend yourself.
    Yes I do. Who are you to say I don't?
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