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Thread: Attack within Pakistan

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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Yet more rhetotic.

    Stoping Iran and the Taliban from getting nukes PREVENTS issues.
    Actually, it prevents some issues while CAUSING more.
    Last edited by First Thought; 05-20-09 at 12:52 PM.
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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Typical liberal rhetoric. Most liberals know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about warfare. Ergo ... the liberal opinion of this situation is a falacy that must be completely ignored.
    This is why no one takes you seriously. Is this your attempt at intelligent discourse?

    You continue to spew ignorant, hyperpartisan oral diarrhea all over this forum and it gets old quick. No one likes a partisan parrot. Either make an intelligent, fact-based argument or stop posting.
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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Again ... the point you're missing is that NOBODY is talking about deploying troops. You created that falacy.

    There are other ways to intervene.
    Then what other form would this attack take?

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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Again ... the point you're missing is that NOBODY is talking about deploying troops. You created that falacy.

    There are other ways to intervene.
    Well, I suggested that we give the Pakistani government diplomatic, financial, and military assistance. You criticized that idea, saying it was "typical liberal rhetoric" and helpfully suggesting that I was "not qualified to discuss the topic."

    So if deploying troops is a no-go, and helping the Pakistani troops is a non-starter, what kind of intervention DO you want?
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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Zyphlin lets go and do it,anyone who threatens the USA,we will just give them the Strapp again,the pakis are rubbish and so as all the rest who tries to
    undermine this great country of the USA,and we will back everyway,also Laila will as well.

    so there u go,back u guys to the hilt as u have done for us here in the United Kinkdom.

    mikeey.


    PS Lailla are u a M U supporter.haha i am a Celt the same as Gorbals Mick
    the speaker of the house,sobe it from the east end of glasgow.

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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Yes, it is.

    Nobody said ANYTHING about a massive incursion except the liberals.

    We're talking about keeping nukes out of the hands of Taliban morons. You're talking about an invasion. The two are NOT related.
    Oh come on, you go on about it all the time. When baldly pronounce the need to depose people and such all the time, what do you think people are going to take away from that?

    You still haven't defined the Taliban.
    Besides ... I have yet to meet a true old-left liberal who had the slightest clue how military operations work.
    What does that have to do with me? The person who set up the traditionalists usergroup on this site.
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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    This is why no one takes you seriously. Is this your attempt at intelligent discourse?

    You continue to spew ignorant, hyperpartisan oral diarrhea all over this forum and it gets old quick. No one likes a partisan parrot. Either make an intelligent, fact-based argument or stop posting.
    Egoff,

    Who let you out of your cage?

    Last edited by Vader; 05-20-09 at 09:20 PM.

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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Please find another thread in which to spew your liberal rhetoric.

    Thanks for stopping by.
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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well, I suggested that we give the Pakistani government diplomatic, financial, and military assistance. You criticized that idea, saying it was "typical liberal rhetoric" and helpfully suggesting that I was "not qualified to discuss the topic."

    So if deploying troops is a no-go, and helping the Pakistani troops is a non-starter, what kind of intervention DO you want?
    The best way to handle it is to conduct missile strikes on all known Taliban strongholds.

    Yes, there will be civilian casualties; however, casualties are a part of war. Those people chose to live with the Taliban ****bags; therefore, they must be willing to accept the consequences of their choice.

    I am not a fan of slaughtering civilians; however, we CANNOT allow the Taliban ****bags to hide among civilians and expect to be safe from attack.

    The Taliban is an Al Qaeda-friendly group. Therefore, they must utterly and completely annihilated.

    It seems harash I know! War is filled with hard choices and terrible losses that seem to go on without end. War sucks!

    The Taliban hid Bin Laden and his scumbag buddies ... now they can pay the cost of that foolish decision.

    So ... when the Taliban begin closing in on a country with nuclear arms; I say WIPE THE TALIBAN OUT.

    However, in lieu of that, I think the best course of action is drone-based missile strikes on Taliban outposts.

    This will keep the Taliban from building up forces for an assault on Pakistani territory.

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    Re: Attack within Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The best way to handle it is to conduct missile strikes on all known Taliban strongholds.

    Yes, there will be civilian casualties; however, casualties are a part of war. Those people chose to live with the Taliban ****bags; therefore, they must be willing to accept the consequences of their choice.

    I am not a fan of slaughtering civilians; however, we CANNOT allow the Taliban ****bags to hide among civilians and expect to be safe from attack.

    The Taliban is an Al Qaeda-friendly group. Therefore, they must utterly and completely annihilated.

    It seems harash I know! War is filled with hard choices and terrible losses that seem to go on without end. War sucks!

    The Taliban hid Bin Laden and his scumbag buddies ... now they can pay the cost of that foolish decision.

    So ... when the Taliban begin closing in on a country with nuclear arms; I say WIPE THE TALIBAN OUT.

    However, in lieu of that, I think the best course of action is drone-based missile strikes on Taliban outposts.

    This will keep the Taliban from building up forces for an assault on Pakistani territory.
    Missile strikes are only good at destroying major facilities or camps. And you can count the number of those under Taliban control on one hand.

    The only way to stop the Taliban from advancing is with troops on the ground...either ours or Pakistan's. It would be a mistake to put our own troops on the ground, since that would further radicalize the population and destabilize the government at precisely the moment when we cannot afford to do that. For that matter, missile strikes would do the same thing...and would be less effective at accomplishing the goal in the first place.

    The only sensible course of action right now is to assist Pakistan's military behind the scenes.
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