View Poll Results: Which is controversial support for gay marriage or support for traditional marriage?

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  • Being against gay marriage is controversial

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  • Being for gay marriage is controversial

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  • neither is controversial

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  • They are both controversial but neither is more controversial than the other.

    10 41.67%
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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As I understand it, something is controversial when it is contrary to popular opinion. Since popular opinion has moved to the pro-gm side, it is no longer controversial to support gay marriage; it is no only controversial to oppose it.
    Most states have banned it and every state where the issue has been decided by the voters the voters have said no to gay marriage and twice in Commiefornai out of all places which is gay and leftist capital of the country. How has popular opinion moved to the side of gay marriage? Saying opposing gay marriage is controversial is like saying believing the earth is round is controversial. Just because a bunch of homosexual and tranny leftist sympathizers in hollywood call supporting traditional marriage controversial does not make it controversial.
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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    "Controversy", if I can sling a guess without resorting to my dictionary, means umm...okay, the dictionary says...a dispute, especially a public one between those holding contrary views.

    Therefore, "gay marriage" is a controverial topic, "for" and "against" are the two sides of the controversy.

    Frankly, I don't see what the big deal is. The nation is being ruined by spend-happy Congressthings, and this is a Vital Topic Du Jour?

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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    From all that I have seen, here and elsewhere, the least controversial position is "why is government involved in marriage?"
    Marriage is a civil contract, and thus to clearly define when it's entered into it needs to be registered, is all. When the state divorced itself from the Church, in 1887, it eventually became apparent that marriage was a civil matter, not a religious matter.

    Since all objections to gay marriage are at heart religious objections, there's no real reason gays shouldn't be married in civil ceremonies.

    Who's it hurt, anyway?

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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Most states have banned it and every state where the issue has been decided by the voters the voters have said no to gay marriage and twice in Commiefornai out of all places which is gay and leftist capital of the country.
    Speaking as a Commifornian, it is NOT the gay or leftist capital of the nation. Despite the fact that we happen to have the Castro and Hollywood, they are nicely balanced out by countless square miles of intolerant, redneck hicks as you get away from the coast. Try a state like Massachusetts or Vermont.

    Oh, and by the way, there are probably half a dozen commies in this whole state, and they're all just smoking weed in Berkeley right now anyway.


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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    "Controversy", if I can sling a guess without resorting to my dictionary, means umm...okay, the dictionary says...a dispute, especially a public one between those holding contrary views.

    Therefore, "gay marriage" is a controverial topic, "for" and "against" are the two sides of the controversy.

    Frankly, I don't see what the big deal is. The nation is being ruined by spend-happy Congressthings, and this is a Vital Topic Du Jour?
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Marriage is a civil contract, and thus to clearly define when it's entered into it needs to be registered, is all. When the state divorced itself from the Church, in 1887, it eventually became apparent that marriage was a civil matter, not a religious matter.

    Since all objections to gay marriage are at heart religious objections, there's no real reason gays shouldn't be married in civil ceremonies.

    Who's it hurt, anyway?

    Scarecrow, I have never thought you so reasonable as I do right now.

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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Marriage is a civil contract...
    Marriage is an agent of socialization, not a mere "civil contract".

    The legal aspect is tertiary at best.

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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Most states have banned it and every state where the issue has been decided by the voters the voters have said no to gay marriage and twice in Commiefornai out of all places which is gay and leftist capital of the country. How has popular opinion moved to the side of gay marriage? Saying opposing gay marriage is controversial is like saying believing the earth is round is controversial. Just because a bunch of homosexual and tranny leftist sympathizers in hollywood call supporting traditional marriage controversial does not make it controversial.
    So you're saying it's controversial to say it's not controversial?

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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So you're saying it's controversial to say it's not controversial?
    Well, if you were to say that it's not controversial, you would be wrong. As to whether being wrong is controversial or not...


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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Well, if you were to say that it's not controversial, you would be wrong. As to whether being wrong is controversial or not...


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    Being wrong is only controversial if you're mod (badoom-psh), but I suppose Jamesrage has a good point: Nearly every state which has put the issue to a vote has banned it.

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    Re: Is controversial to be for gay marriage or against gay marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Being wrong is only controversial if you're mod (badoom-psh), but I suppose Jamesrage has a good point: Nearly every state which has put the issue to a vote has banned it.
    Absolutely, and I doubt that the general populace of the U.S. is pro-gay marriage. But there is public disagreement on the topic, ergo, there is controversy (as well there should be). To pick a side in a controversy is to take a controversial stance, I believe.


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