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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    When policemen are looking for criminals, they don't kidnap one of their parent and start removing his skin. Instead they use other methods to gather informations: observation, mail interception/phone recording, covert agents...these methods are both more reliable and ethic
    different situations call for different tactics...
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Give me liberty or give me death, kind of explains it don't you think? If you sacrifice your morals then what do you have left? You've now become what you despise, shouldn't someone torture you next?
    if we allow our morals to totally dictate our actions, we are about as safe as sheep in wolf country...
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    if we allow our morals to totally dictate our actions, we are about as safe as sheep in wolf country...
    If we don't uphold the morals we preach and claim to be defending, what seperates us from them?
    Last edited by Laila; 04-24-09 at 03:27 PM.


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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Just out of curiosity, but are you trying to compare the love one has of a family member to the love one has for their own country in this scenario?

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    It seems some of us are failing to comprehend the hypothetical.

    Torturing this murderous thug is the ONLY way to save your family. There are no qualifiers, there are no exceptions, there are no what-if scenarios or anything like that. If you do not torture this murderous thug it is a certainty that your family will die. It was made black and white for a reason.

    Refuse to torture, family dies.

    Now, what is your final answer?

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If we don't uphold the morals we preach and claim to be defending, what seperates us from them?
    The fact that we do not wantonly murder innocent people.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Give me liberty or give me death, kind of explains it don't you think? If you sacrifice your morals then what do you have left? You've now become what you despise, shouldn't someone torture you next?
    Who's sacrificing their morals? I would not have compromised my morals at all.

    My home--family and friends--my community, my nation, and only then the rest of humanity. That is the moral precedence to be applied.

    And thus I am not become what I despise.

    As for someone torturing me? Well, if that were necessary to save their child, I don't doubt that they would. If I were in the position of the murderous thug, I would expect any man to hunt me down, fight me, capture or kill me, and if capturing me to torture me for whatever information I might have that would rescue their child from harm. As he is a man, I would expect no less from him.

    Of course, I am sure there are those who would torture me simply for the joy of it. Such is the way of the world. It matters not.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    if we allow our morals to totally dictate our actions, we are about as safe as sheep in wolf country...
    Only if we have the wrong morals.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It seems some of us are failing to comprehend the hypothetical.

    Torturing this murderous thug is the ONLY way to save your family. There are no qualifiers, there are no exceptions, there are no what-if scenarios or anything like that. If you do not torture this murderous thug it is a certainty that your family will die. It was made black and white for a reason.

    Refuse to torture, family dies.

    Now, what is your final answer?
    Then this in no way is a valid comparison to the topic that this poll is obviously inspired by.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The fact that we do not wantonly murder innocent people.
    What stops us if we are willing to through away our morals without hesitation?


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