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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Ahh, a misquote, an assumption and a judgement all at the same time. Did she say she wouldn't fight back? Did she say she would "just roll over and die before fighting back"? You try to come off as so religious and high and mighty yet, you would jump at the chance to torture or kill someone without even looking at other options. The hypocricy is astounding!
    Personal attack, sir?

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Personal attack, sir?
    Just an observation.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Ahh, a misquote, an assumption and a judgement all at the same time. Did she say she wouldn't fight back? Did she say she would "just roll over and die before fighting back"? You try to come off as so religious and high and mighty yet, you would jump at the chance to torture or kill someone without even looking at other options. The hypocricy is astounding!
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Just an observation.

    Please don't call me "sir". I work for a living.
    Please show where I said anything at all about "Inferno" other than s/he is right, and that I don't think s/he's a liar.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Please show where I said anything at all about "Inferno" other than s/he is right, and that I don't think s/he's a liar.
    Amazing. Your post only had 4 sentences. Yet you quote the 2 not relevant.
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Amazing. Your post only had 4 sentences. Yet you quote the 2 not relevant.
    the other two are:

    Some people will just roll over and die before fighting back.

    and...
    But I also don't think that's the right choice.



    Now tell me...Where in there did I address Inferno, and what S/HE would do?

    In your personal distaste for me, you lose reading comprehension. Perhaps the two are related.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Inferno's right. Some people will just roll over and die before fighting back. I don't think s/he's a liar. But I also don't think that's the right choice.
    It is not a case of just rolling over. They can beat me and break my bones and even kill me. In the end they have a broken body or my dead body. In either case I have not sunk to their level and they do not have my submission. It is not a case of just rolling over. It is an act of non violent rebellion against tyrannical ways. Oh it is she BTW.
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    It is not a case of just rolling over. They can beat me and break my bones and even kill me. In the end they have a broken body or my dead body. In either case I have not sunk to their level and they do not have my submission. It is not a case of just rolling over. It is an act of non violent rebellion against tyrannical ways.
    How many martyrs? And for what cause? Sleep deprivation is called "torture." If you read my earlier post in answer to the OP, I said for my family, I would act from emotion and probably do anything required that I could manage. However, as a policy, I'm not for permanent disfigurement or killing.

    Jr. High is worse torture than water boarding, and EVERY American kid has to endure THAT!

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    How many martyrs? And for what cause? Sleep deprivation is called "torture." If you read my earlier post in answer to the OP, I said for my family, I would act from emotion and probably do anything required that I could manage. However, as a policy, I'm not for permanent disfigurement or killing.

    Jr. High is worse torture than water boarding, and EVERY American kid has to endure THAT!
    I said in one of my earlier posts that in many causes I would be willing to give my life. There is no cause nor reason for me ever be willing to resort to the enemies tactics or to kill.
    The sense that I get (not necessarily from your post) is that one who will not fight back is seen as weak. It is not weakness. You never yield to the level of an oppressor. You never submit to their reign. The only power that they have over us is that which we grant them. It is when we sell out our values and noble ideals that we become their slaves and the enemy wins over us.
    When the US decided that torture was a good thing that is when we lost the moral high ground and told the enemy that we are no better than you are. That is when the enemy took away our noble view. That was when we lost.
    It is true when you think of this. An Eye for an Eye eventually makes the entire world blind.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    I said in one of my earlier posts that in many causes I would be willing to give my life. There is no cause nor reason for me ever be willing to resort to the enemies tactics or to kill.
    The sense that I get (not necessarily from your post) is that one who will not fight back is seen as weak. It is not weakness. You never yield to the level of an oppressor. You never submit to their reign. The only power that they have over us is that which we grant them. It is when we sell out our values and noble ideals that we become their slaves and the enemy wins over us.
    When the US decided that torture was a good thing that is when we lost the moral high ground and told the enemy that we are no better than you are. That is when the enemy took away our noble view. That was when we lost.
    It is true when you think of this. An Eye for an Eye eventually makes the entire world blind.

    To sink to the level of an oppressor is to become them.
    Sleep deprivation, emotional intimidation, and water boarding is not starvation, and beheading.

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