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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Mossberg at the front door.
    What's a Mossberg? Is that like an iceberg, but made of lichen?



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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    What's a Mossberg? Is that like an iceberg, but made of lichen?



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    Heh! Truth be told, I'm overrun with moss out here (rural Pacific Northwest). In fact, the last week or so has been an un-fun adventure of thatching the %$#@! moss out of my lawn, reseeding it, and covering the seed with dirt. My lawn looks like it's got scabies.

    But seriously... a Mossberg is a 12-guage pump-action shotgun. I've got coyotes and wildcats out here hungry for a chicken dinner, and I like my birds too much to let some critter get them. (I like ME too much to be a victim in my own home, too.)

    So yeah, I got me a gun! I lean liberal, but not always...

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    But seriously... a Mossberg is a 12-guage pump-action shotgun. I've got coyotes and wildcats out here hungry for a chicken dinner, and I like my birds too much to let some critter get them. (I like ME too much to be a victim in my own home, too.)

    So yeah, I got me a gun! I lean liberal, but not always...
    Ironically, when shooting a firearm is the only time I lean to the left.....

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Nope. Never. No how, no way. Huh-unh.

    Why? Because there is NO WAY to know if the person you're torturing knows anything (you telling me it's so don't mean squat; maybe you've got a grudge against said "murderous thug" and you're making this crap up because you're too weak to do the sick, twisted, UNAMERICAN job yourself). To assume otherwise is.... well, you know what they say about assumptions.
    So, basically, you've dismissed a fundamental part of the hypothetical in order to avoid the question. Noted.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So, basically, you've dismissed a fundamental part of the hypothetical in order to avoid the question. Noted.
    Have you created the second part of this thread yet? Have I missed it?
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    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Have you created the second part of this thread yet? Have I missed it?
    No. Not sure that I'm interested anymore.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So, basically, you've dismissed a fundamental part of the hypothetical in order to avoid the question. Noted.
    Sure. Because your hypothetical is lame. Ignorant. Not possible in the real world.

    Tell you what. You explain how you KNOW this person has information that no one else has.

    THEN explain why, if you're so good at reading minds, you need to torture the person at all.

    We'll wait.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Sure. Because your hypothetical is lame. Ignorant. Not possible in the real world.

    Tell you what. You explain how you KNOW this person has information that no one else has.

    THEN explain why, if you're so good at reading minds, you need to torture the person at all.

    We'll wait.
    Your daughter is missing. This man was caught with her clothing in his possession. He's an arrogant *** and says he buried her alive, she has a few hours of air left and then she dies. He refuses to say where she is.

    Or...

    Mohammad Ben Misbehavin' is a known terrorist, currently in custody. Intel says he belongs to a group known as Jihad R Us. Intel says your daughter has been kidnapped by Jihad R Us. Mohammad Ben Misbehavin' is believed to have complete knowlege of JRU's safehouses and communications methods. He refuses to talk.

    There ya go. Now answer the question, please.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No. Not sure that I'm interested anymore.
    When my wife tells me the same thing, I call her a tease.
    But seriously, I was looking forward to part 2.
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Your daughter is missing. This man was caught with her clothing in his possession. He's an arrogant *** and says he buried her alive, she has a few hours of air left and then she dies. He refuses to say where she is.

    Or...

    Mohammad Ben Misbehavin' is a known terrorist, currently in custody. Intel says he belongs to a group known as Jihad R Us. Intel says your daughter has been kidnapped by Jihad R Us. Mohammad Ben Misbehavin' is believed to have complete knowlege of JRU's safehouses and communications methods. He refuses to talk.

    There ya go. Now answer the question, please.

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    Ah yes, the ubiquitous "ticking time bomb" argument that actually never happens in the real world. You think if we answer "yes" to one of these scenarios then the use of torture is warranted, right? Wrong. Torture has been legislated to be illegal. There are no exceptions.
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