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What are you babbling about? My moral views are undeniable fact - they exist for me; I hold them, I observe them, I follow them. Your moral views are undeniable fact as well. Although I cannot say with conviction that yours do not change with the situation ["I wouldn't ever beat the **** out of anyone that I'd tied up, but AAKK!! My family is in danger!"], I can say with authority that mine do not.
False. You moral views are not undeniable facts "for you".
What is a fact is that you HOLD certain moral views.
There is a distinction.
I would like to clarify something: My moral views don't "change" based on the situation. I look at each situation individually before I make a moral distinction. For me, utilizing any means necessary to save my family is always moral. Situation: Saving my family.
I don't take an amorphous thing like "torture" and arbitrarily decide that it is always immoral under any circumstances because I cannot possibly know all the possible situations where it might be utilized.
I can say that most of the situations I have encountered are ones where I find torture to be immoral.
Btu I wouldn't presume to have encountered every situation.
My use of the word "true" was intended to show the distinction between those whose moral position on torture does not change with the circumstance (yes, even in "AAKK!! My family is in danger!" situations) as opposed to those whose moral position on torture does. "True" as in reliable, unfailing, unchanging, unbreakable, regardless of the situation or circumstance. Sorry that wasn't clearer.
I differ on my take of your beliefs.
I feel they are based on a flawed premise and thus are illogical.
That premise is: "If I haven't encountered it or imagine it, it cannot exist".
You must assume that no situation can possibly exist that is outside your own personal view of reality.
I make a moral distinction based on the premise, "Just because I have not encountered or imagined a situation, that does not mean it cannot exist"
Because I cannot know every possible situation, I cannot make a blanket statement that an action is always moral or immoral. For specific situations, I can make that distinction.
Now get up off the floor and wipe your tears. Mommy's tired of your tantrums.
:rofl Why didn't you breast feed me, mommy?!?!?!?!