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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    That's why it's called "choice." You plays the game you takes your chances.
    "Choice"?

    Are you older than 12?
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    "Choice"?

    Are you older than 12?
    Yes, "choice." As in you have to make a decision, based upon imperfect information, with risks attendant on all possible alternatives.

    It's what grown ups do.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Actually, no, that is not a legal question. It's a political question. What do you believe the law should say, irrespective of what the law may or may not currently say.
    Wow. Do you ever read what you write or listen to what you say?

    This country runs by its laws not by what one person "believes"! Holy ****!

    And how many times have you drowned, that you know this to be so?
    My question was, "Ever felt the fear that you were going to drown?". I didn't ask if you drowned.
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    It's what grown ups do.
    Oh the irony.
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Wow. Do you ever read what you write or listen to what you say?

    This country runs by its laws not by what one person "believes"! Holy ****!
    Do you ever answer a question? What stance do you take on the law? Is "the law" automatically and intrinsically just? Should "the law" ever be modified to better impart justice?

    In all your bobbing weaving waffling ducking running and associated other evasions, you manage completely to avoid stating anything about what you believe. Is that because you fear to state your beliefs plainly or because you have none to state?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    My question was, "Ever felt the fear that you were going to drown?". I didn't ask if you drowned.
    Yet again, you do not answer the simple question posed. Why do you fear to give answers?

    How do you know that waterboarding is worse?

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How do you know that waterboarding is worse?
    Because the fear of drowning ceases as soon as that person drowns. In waterboarding, the fear of drowning is multiplied by the number of times that person is subjected to waterboarding.
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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Because the fear of drowning ceases as soon as that person drowns. In waterboarding, the fear of drowning is multiplied by the number of times that person is subjected to waterboarding.
    How does that make it worse?

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How does that make it worse?
    You do not understand multiplication?
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    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    How many times, on how many different threads, do we have to discuss this?

    There was no rational fear of waterboarding when the CIA waterboarded high-level terrorist detainees. They were told, before each waterboarding session, that they would not be killed.

    When a detainee "broke," it was a triumph of the irrational subconscious mind over the rational conscious mind.

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    Re: Would You Utilize Torture to Save a Life?

    I see where the OP is trying to go but it assumes that the person being tortured will give good information once torture is used.

    Bad assumption.



    In any case, what 2 or 10 or 85 people may do individually is not a green light to adopt bad policy for a country.


    I would chat with her when I'm feeling particularly snarky, but I wouldn't ever call her on the phone.

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