View Poll Results: Did we evolve from Apes?

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  • Yes, we evolved from Apes.

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  • No, we have not evolved in any shape or form, we are the same biological beings we have always been.

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  • Yes, we did evolve, but i do not think we evolved from Apes.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    It is my personal theory that Earth had visitors long ago who genetically altered the apes to create humans.
    Seems a little far fetched at first, but i do believe there is extraterrestrial life out there and i do believe there have been instances where they have visited this planet and are intruiged by our life forms and planet. Its not impossible, i suppose.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    They've already pretty much tossed Darwin's simple Tree of Life. I'm sure there's tons more ways in which the theory of evolution will be tweaked before all is said and done.

    Again the problem is discussing evolution and the theory of evolution as the same thing.
    They've also tossed out the epicycles used by Copernicus in favor of Kepler's elliptical orbits. That doesn't devalue nor negate the basic principles of heliocentric theory.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    YECs are fracking nuts.
    What's a YEC?

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    A more rational approach is "I don't know."
    Then this should be the only choice on the poll.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    The poll is rather limiting that's why I didn't answer.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    They've also tossed out the epicycles used by Copernicus in favor of Kepler's elliptical orbits. That doesn't devalue nor negate the basic principles of heliocentric theory.

    Yeah, accept for the sun not being the center of the universe heliocentric theory is dandy.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    They've already pretty much tossed Darwin's simple Tree of Life. I'm sure there's tons more ways in which the theory of evolution will be tweaked before all is said and done.

    Again the problem is discussing evolution and the theory of evolution as the same thing.
    You're confusing Darwin's theory of natural selection w/ evolution, his tree was simple; the one predicted by the theory of evolution was specific and accurate.

    Yes, more evidence will come in to refine the theory, that is a testament to the power of science. Scientists are both skeptical and open-minded, they are rational which means willing to change their theories or even abandon them when faced with new evidence.

    You can be skeptical about the specific explanations about our particular species, but when faced with the genetic evidence for common descent with modern apes what say you? The fact is we share a common ancestor with all forms of life on this planet.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    What's a YEC?
    Young earth creationist, someone who believes the earth is only 6000 years old. Typically biblical literalists, people who deny geology, astronomy and various forms of dating.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The poll is rather limiting that's why I didn't answer.
    What poll option was you hoping for? Just curious. Ill put it up if i can.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Yeah, accept for the sun not being the center of the universe heliocentric theory is dandy.
    The theory of the Universe has changed dramatically since the days of Copernicus, but that has had no effect whatsoever on the basic principles of the theory of heliocentricity. What was referred to as the Universe back then is now fully understood to just be the Solar system.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    You're confusing Darwin's theory of natural selection w/ evolution, his tree was simple; the one predicted by the theory of evolution was specific and accurate.

    Yes, more evidence will come in to refine the theory, that is a testament to the power of science. Scientists are both skeptical and open-minded, they are rational which means willing to change their theories or even abandon them when faced with new evidence.

    You can be skeptical about the specific explanations about our particular species, but when faced with the genetic evidence for common descent with modern apes what say you? The fact is we share a common ancestor with all forms of life on this planet.

    "When the facts change, I change my mind what do you do, sir?
    What are you talking about with the bolded above? Where can I go to see the specific and accurate tree drawing? The dang thing has been redrawn every which till Sunday and I imagine will change so many more times that they ought to not keep putting crude images of any sort of tree of life in textbooks.

    I believe that evolution occurs. I'm not sure I believe all life on this planet stems from a single common ancestor. That sounds like rot, the evidence for it is most certainly not undeniable, and I'd be as apt at this point to believe in Adam and Eve as believing ALL LIFE on Earth stemmed from a single ancestor.

    As far as I'm concerned if someone denies evolution they're a tard. If someone denies this notion that all life stems from a single source - that's not so tardy.

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