View Poll Results: Did we evolve from Apes?

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  • Yes, we evolved from Apes.

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  • No, we have not evolved in any shape or form, we are the same biological beings we have always been.

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  • Yes, we did evolve, but i do not think we evolved from Apes.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    I think to say probability states possibility of ape ancestorial relations, but i dont buy its conceivablness yet, idk i cant/shant put my finger on it.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Its called being Agnostic. You associate to no religion but believe in a God, or something along those regions, a different type of higher being pulling the "strings".
    I feel the term agnostic is just as freely thrown around as atheist. Most people use the term to point out that they aren't sure. That is just what the term has come to mean. The definition that you gave seems to fit me pretty well, however. I am sure of what I believe in and that's what separates me from most people who just call themselves agnostic.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmanX View Post
    I think to say probability states possibility of ape ancestorial relations, but i dont buy its conceivablness yet, idk i cant/shant put my finger on it.
    I take this to mean that you do not believe that humans evolved from ape-like species... What are your theories as to the origin of mankind?


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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmanX View Post
    I think to say probability states possibility of ape ancestorial relations, but i dont buy its conceivablness yet, idk i cant/shant put my finger on it.
    The DNA evidence is pretty damn conclusive and im not even talking about the great amount of DNA we share with apes. Evolution leaves little markers in the DNA that basically scream "HUMANS AND APES ARE RELATED".
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Probability that apes and humans are related?

    We are related. It's not a probability. It has been proven the world over through DNA analysis.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Originally Posted by Kandahar
    I said that humans have never observed SPECIATION since the theory of evolution was developed in the mid-1800s. Nor would one expect them to, since speciation usually takes place over the course of millennia (or longer
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari
    You asked if we've witnessed evolution on the level of speciation, we have not directly seen that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case
    No, we've never directly observed this.
    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK
    What about speciation via hybridisation, polyploidly and autopolyploidy of plants? Where new species of plants pop up and can not mate with their parent species. Thats a creation of a new species.
    Observed Instances of Speciation
    This FAQ discusses several instances where speciation has been observed.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation]Speciation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


    Speciation is the evolutionary process by which new biological species arise. There are four modes of natural speciation, based on the extent to which speciating populations are geographically isolated from one another: allopatric, peripatric, parapatric, and sympatric. Speciation may also be induced artificially, through animal husbandry or laboratory experiments. Observed examples of each kind of speciation are provided throughout.[1] .

    I am accepting 5 separate bets (it is time to make money on scientists):

    1. Scientists will not understand the simplest questions.
    2. Scientists will not be able to give simple answers.
    3. Scientists will cut and run
    4. Scientists will turn to meaningless personal insults

    And the highest stake is

    5. Scientists will do all the above.


    People, make your bets.

    Can mods make it a Poll?

    The question is: Who is lying – the overwhelming majority of scientists who say that we have never observed speciation or the scientific consensus which says that Observed examples of each kind of speciation are provided throughout?

    Before I move on some lies in details I want to demonstrate that scientists do not understand that 2 opposite statements cannot be both true.
    Before I move on some lies in details I want to make sure that everyone sees that the overwhelming majority of scientists is the most indecent, immoral part of our society. One hardly can find such blatant contradicting lies imposed with such a relentless aggression even in Obama's administration, even among politicians. Even last criminals would attempt to make their stories true like.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    The DNA evidence is pretty damn conclusive and im not even talking about the great amount of DNA we share with apes. Evolution leaves little markers in the DNA that basically scream "HUMANS AND APES ARE RELATED".
    Half of an exact replicate of our DNA can be found in Bananas. But i dont think my ancestors grew off trees.

    We share 50% of our DNA with bananas

    Such DNA results showing "similarities" is nothing...because we have nothing to suggest we did evolve from monkeys, the only evidence we do have is "similarities" which for me isnt conclusive enough.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Observed Instances of Speciation
    This FAQ discusses several instances where speciation has been observed.

    Speciation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Speciation is the evolutionary process by which new biological species arise. There are four modes of natural speciation, based on the extent to which speciating populations are geographically isolated from one another: allopatric, peripatric, parapatric, and sympatric. Speciation may also be induced artificially, through animal husbandry or laboratory experiments. Observed examples of each kind of speciation are provided throughout.[1] .

    I am accepting 5 separate bets (it is time to make money on scientists):

    1. Scientists will not understand the simplest questions.
    2. Scientists will not be able to give simple answers.
    3. Scientists will cut and run
    4. Scientists will turn to meaningless personal insults

    And the highest stake is

    5. Scientists will do all the above.


    People, make your bets.

    Can mods make it a Poll?

    The question is: Who is lying – the overwhelming majority of scientists who say that we have never observed speciation or the scientific consensus which says that Observed examples of each kind of speciation are provided throughout?

    Before I move on some lies in details I want to demonstrate that scientists do not understand that 2 opposite statements cannot be both true.
    Before I move on some lies in details I want to make sure that everyone sees that the overwhelming majority of scientists is the most indecent, immoral part of our society. One hardly can find such blatant contradicting lies imposed with such a relentless aggression even in Obama's administration, even among politicians. Even last criminals would attempt to make their stories true like.


    Perhaps I didn't understand the question that was originally asked:

    Have we ever observed different species evolving from a common ancestor?
    From what I know, which is definitely limited, I don't believe we've seen multiple species coming from the same common ancestor directly.

    I could be wrong, but that was how I took the question.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Had humans observed it before mid-1800s?
    Yes, even if they didn't put a name to what they were seeing.

    The teosinte plant branched off into corn, didn't it?

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Perhaps I didn't understand the question that was originally asked:



    From what I know, which is definitely limited, I don't believe we've seen multiple species coming from the same common ancestor directly.

    I could be wrong, but that was how I took the question.
    I was not allowed to ask another question?

    It is simple. A whole bunch of evolutionists here answered “No.” But evolutionist sources say Yes. Who is lying?

    May be you missed the post where I outlined your abilities to understand and answer questions and our agreement on major points. http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058007389

    So, not speaking about Tucker, but asking Tucker - who in your view is lying?

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