Yes, we evolved from Apes.
No, we have not evolved in any shape or form, we are the same biological beings we have always been.
Yes, we did evolve, but i do not think we evolved from Apes.
You can't see gravity but you know it exists because you see its direct effects. You can drop a ball and know that gravity is pulling it. You can't see atoms with your naked eye but scientific equipment can, and interactions between atoms can be analyzed.
You can't test for God's existence. People who believe in God say it is self-evident for them, and that's great... but that's not proof. There is no control mechanism to separate an action caused by God from any rational, explicable action.
"Creation science" is an oxymoron. Science and the age of rationality arose within the past 400-500 years. Religious scripture predates that. Scripture therefore simply CANNOT contain science or any kind of scientific method. It is purely faith based.
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Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
We should all stop wasting our time with this guy. He's just a willfully ignorant guy who'd rather keep his head up his ass than accept some uncomfortable truths. Nobody's going to get anywhere.
He'll probably respond to this post saying all "evolutionists" know how to do is use ad homs and strawmen and claim again there's no reason to believe in evolution... And I'm going to ignore him, because that's what intelligent people do to deal with these sorts of folks.
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There are PLENTY of examples of speciation in the fossil record. And there are PLENTY of examples of scientists observing evolution, just not speciation.
Furthermore, I don't understand how you can logically accept the existence of small-scale evolution over relatively short time frames, while denying that a lot of small changes over a long time will add up to some major changes. Perhaps you can explain your reasoning for this logical disconnect, so that I can show you where you are confused.
I have no idea what you're talking about here. This thread is about the theory of evolution, and now you're talking about God and resurrection?Originally Posted by justone
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Are you coming to bed?
I can't. This is important.
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Now you are coming back and making exactly the same argument from ignorance. I have problems with such an attitude of yours.
In order to learn evolution I read Origins of Life, I went to evolutionist sites only - never to Creationists or Id to look for objections, I read articles in peer reviewed magazines published by evolutionists. Why don't you do the same in order to get familiar with my religion including the fact that the method of logical deduction from empirical evidence was established for the proof of God by one of the greatest empiricists of the history, the father of the method?
Pardon me, before making the argument from ignorance, what do you think I or the giver of the fundamental laws of genetics, a highly trained mathematician and physicist Gregor Mendel would be abandoning logic and empirical evidence in our personal beliefs?
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