View Poll Results: Did we evolve from Apes?

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  • Yes, we evolved from Apes.

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  • No, we have not evolved in any shape or form, we are the same biological beings we have always been.

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  • Yes, we did evolve, but i do not think we evolved from Apes.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    If your Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sihk, Athiest, Agnostic, whatever, i want to hear your opinions on Evolution. Did it occur? If so, are we the biologically enhanced version of Apes, changed over thousands of years of evolution? Or did it not happen at all. Does it have any scientific basis? Or did a being from a greater source place us here?

    Whats your opinions?
    We did not evolve from apes, we evolved from a common ancestor.

    I believe that a greater power created the worlds, galaxies, ect. Evolution is how everything after that came to be.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I don't think you comprehended the full meaning of my post. The intelligent designer would use mechanisms (evolutionary mechanisms) as I've said. This may include not changing things that don't require changing from species to species along the evolutionary pathway.
    Then it's not an intelligent designer, it's retarded fumbler, working blindly with no pre-established goal in mind, and is thus completely indistinguishable from evolution by natural selection, and by Occam's Razor an irrelevant unnecessary complication, and as such should be discarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    What you fail to realize is that you haven't answered why the nerve swoops down. You've only shown HOW it exists in all species of animals from fish to humans.
    Actually, I did.

    In the fish, it swoops down to operate gills or whatever it is that it does in fish, and in fish it's perfectly sensible for the nerve to be where it is. Because humans (and all non-fish vertebrates) evolved from fish, that nerve has been distorted from it's original optimal fishy function.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The only thing you've shown is that the shape of this nerve has not hindered reproductive success over the course of evolution. Why has this nerve not changed?
    Because evolution works with what it has. It doesn't intelligently optimize anything. If a modification works and the animal survives to make little animals, the evolutionary modification is a success and will be retained.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The simple answer: It had no bearing on reproductive success, therefore there was no reason for it to change. That doesn't answer why it exists in said form. To learn that, we must go back to the first ever species that this trait appears in and explain how it was reproductively beneficial for this swoop to be present.
    No. I answered the "why". The answer is because our ancestors were fish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Of course, since it did not change, it is in fact the OPPOSITE of evolution. It is the STAGNATION of a trait.
    Whatever that means.

    You think matters of "stagnation" are significant to a blind process that only selects for what works in the here and now, and has no interest in the optimal because it's not an intelligent process, merely a statistical one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But let's say you actually explained the reason that the shape exists. All you would be doing is describing HOW that trait came into existence. There is no way you can explain WHY the first creature that had this trait came to exist, only HOW it came to exist.
    It worked for fish.

    That counts as a "why".

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Evolution can only explain how a species came into existence. It cannot divine a purpose to that existence. ID tries to give a purpose to existence: God's will.
    ID is nonsense, as I've shown.

    The vermiform appendix in humans is the relic of our ancestral past as animals that needed to ferment volumes of leafy substances. In humans it serves as a receptacle for bacteria and waste that has the unpleasant habit of swelling and exploding, and which killed up to 20% of the population in pre-medical times. Wonderful intelligent design, that, eh?

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    If your Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sihk, Athiest, Agnostic, whatever, i want to hear your opinions on Evolution. Did it occur? If so, are we the biologically enhanced version of Apes, changed over thousands of years of evolution? Or did it not happen at all. Does it have any scientific basis? Or did a being from a greater source place us here?

    Whats your opinions?
    This is another fine example of a poll which should have an "other" option.

    Even though I have a yes or no answer, I can't vote because I don't agree with the reasoning embedded in the options given.

    No, we did not evolve from apes. Humans and apes both share a common ancestor.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Evolution is a fact, but it is all different fact for all different evolutionists:

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat
    ‘’shaping our ancestors' development from our humanoid forebears’’, .
    -here we have the fact of humanoid forebears, - what can they be, nobody knows. Some passage, a ritual sign of a hand pointing to a thick mist, some humanoid (?) some forebears are there in the mist.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou americanwoman.

    I remain completely open to the idea that we may have been genetically interfered with by aliens.
    Here we have the fact of aliens. Who did genetically interfered with aliens, - nobody knows. Some passage, a ritual sign of a hand pointing to a thick mist, some aliens are there in the mist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean
    in fact we did not evolve from modern apes, we have a common ancestor with them. That ancestor was also an ape, as are we. "Ape" just means homonid. .
    Humans are apes, apes are human, we were and were are remaining to be apes. What ape? Can we see it? Or we have to fantasize it as all evolutionists do? here we have the fact of an ape, - what ape, nobody knows. Some passage, a ritual sign of a hand pointing to a thick mist, an unknown ape is there in the mist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case
    I'm proof positive, that at some point along the evolutionary pathway, one of my ancestors ****ed a gorilla. .
    You do it, and that is proof positive that your ancestors did the same.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy
    Most evolutionists (there are always the nut-jobs) agree that we did not evolve from Apes. That we evolved from a similar biological entity. .
    here we have the fact of a similar biological entity, - what can it be, - nobody knows. A ritual sign of a hand

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord
    Humans did not evolve from apes. Apes and humans share common ancestry. .
    here we have the fact of common ancestry – which is nether apes nor humans, - what can they be, nobody knows (crocodiles,? Cats?). Some passage, a ritual sign of a hand pointing to a thick mist, some common ancestry is there in the mist.

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord
    Are we quite certain the process is evolution and not devolution? .
    We are not sure whether it is evolution but not ID (devolution), I guess?
    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin
    If you are familiar with Donkeys, you may have observed that the male donkey is endowed with a remarkably long penis. Remarkably long. .
    From the books of Freud. What would Freud say about ‘’I'm proof positive, that at some point along the evolutionary pathway, one of my ancestors ****ed a gorilla Remarkably long.’’?
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    I use the word "ape" to mean "something like an ape". .
    here we have the fact of "something like an ape". - what can that be, nobody knows . Some passage, a ritual sign of a hand pointing to a thick mist, "something like an ape" is there in the mist.


    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams
    It is my personal theory that Earth had visitors long ago who genetically altered the apes to create humans. .
    Every evolutionist has his own theory, his own facts of evolution. I just went through a few pages and don’t feel like laughing any more. Evolution is a fact… all different fact for all different believers in evolution. Which one should I choose? How ever it is possible to conceive an idea that humans and apes are the same or have evolved from a common ancestor, whatever is the fantasized ancestor? I wouldn’t know. Evolutionists wouldn’t explain.
    http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/up...ek_tech_1a.jpg

    AND THAT MUST BE THE COMMON ANSESTOR:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yDV7sDnXCA..._telephone.jpg
    How this idea about our common ancestor is ever different from the idea that my Blackberry has naturally, by itself evolved from Rikstelefone? I wouldn’t know. Evolutionists wouldn’t explain.

    And nobody ever points to that mysterious ancestor, ape, and alien, "something like an ape", - I have to fantasize such all on my own. What if I cannot live by fantasies like evolutionists do? Then I guess I have to bear with all the personal attacks from evolutionists united, that is the only fact which is common for all of them besides the ability to sheer fantasies.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    I chose the first option, but we didn't evolve from any modern apes. Apes and humans share a common ancestor.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    He's saying evolution as an answer to our origins is -in his mind- debunked. He is saying in the answer to how we came about it is clear to him that evolution did not occur.

    This is not the same as negating all evolution. Do you understand that? .




    He is saying:. After reading Origins of Life, with my background in chemistry and physics, it is clear evolution could not have occurred."



    It is a simple basic sentence. And it is another proof that evolutionists cannot understand a simple sentence. I bet you have never tried to read Origins of Life, - it is all about evolution only. He is saying that evolution could not have occurred. Do you understand that? In the next quote he indeed addresses the question of genesis. It is clear he does not believe in evolution, and the less he believes in biogenesis. You are trying to read out what you want to read out, - it is common for evolutionists. And you are trying to make a big deal from a side note to the text while completly ingoring the text, - it is common for evolutionists.


    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    As to your other questions truthfully I'm not sure I always understand what you're saying/asking. I think we're beyond being able to understand one another. I haven't decided if it's on principal or a language thing. Probably a combination. .


    I have been posting here for years and I know that only evolutionists use this disrespectful “no comprehende’’ pretence in order to avoid answering simplest questions. You don’t understand Smalley, you don’t understand pictures of the evolution of a phone, you don’t understand Origins of Life – this is a sure sign of an evolutionist. In a civilized society, if one does not understand something or is not sure one would ask for clarification, - but evolutionists do not belong to a civilized society. This “no comprehende” pretence is just a variant of ad hom, and I announced in the beginning that evolutionists do always desert to ad homs as to the only debate tactics they know. All I have to do is to count the ad homs,- Lightdemon, -one, Lightdemon -2, talloulou, - 3…








    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Evolution is a factual well observed, well documented phenomenon. .
    Then why neither you nor any evolutionist can ever link to at least one, justone observation of the phenomena of evolution?

    Oh, I am sorry, I already asked this question, I should stop proving 50 times in a raw that evolutionists do not understand simplest questions, - I should rather get used to that… get used, that ''no comprehende '' tactics...
    get used, get used……

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Then why neither you nor any evolutionist can ever link to at least one, justone observation of the phenomena of evolution?
    Here is just one link:

    Observed Instances of Speciation

    Here's another:

    Evolution Observed in Laboratory Bacteria

    And another:

    Fast Evolution Observed in Butterflies

    I don't really expect that you'll read those reports. You certainly won't accept them. And I've got little doubt that you'll be back later in this thread, or some other, claiming that no evolutionist has ever been able to link to just one observation of the phenomenon of evolution.

    Last edited by Grateful Heart; 04-21-09 at 01:42 AM.

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Creationism: Man was created out of dust or dirt or clay or something the giraffes dropped from on high or whatever it is the Bible says by this god guy that blew the Holy-tosis of life into him.

    Scientific Reality: Man is an animal evolved from other animals following the same processes of evolution by natural selection that all life forms on this planet have followed.

    There.
    So... where's the proof that disproves Creationism?

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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Whatever our origin, I would like to think that we are STILL evolving. But the process is so tedious and rejects are not eliminated quickly enough.
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    Re: Evolution: Did we really evolve from Apes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So... where's the proof that disproves Creationism?
    It is irrational to even ask for proof supporting or falsifying Creationism since Creationism does not conform to the scientific method and is not a scientific theory in the least.

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