View Poll Results: Which of these things do you think are true?

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  • The only way to properly use a gun is to kill something with it.

    2 8.00%
  • The only way to use a gun to defend yourself is to kill someone.

    2 8.00%
  • An 'assault weapon' is not capable of firing single shots

    1 4.00%
  • 'Assault weapon' and assault rifle are interchangeable terms

    0 0%
  • 'Assault weapons' are far more powerful than 'standard' weapons.

    5 20.00%
  • 'Assault weapons' are necessarily inaccurate and only suitable for 'spray fire'

    0 0%
  • Penetrating body armor is a Herculean task for a 'standard' firearm

    1 4.00%
  • A cop is better trained, competent, has better judgment and is more stable than an ordinary citizen

    13 52.00%
  • All of the above

    1 4.00%
  • None of the above

    12 48.00%
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Thread: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Cleveland County First Assistant District Attorney David
    Brockman said the proposed sentence is comparable to what prosecutors would offer in a negligent homicide case involving a vehicular accident. If its an appropriate resolution for Joe Smith on the street, he said, its an appropriate resolution for these officers."
    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    So you're saying the Cleveland DA is a liar?
    And would Joe Smith on the street who shot a kid while missing snake been offered that option?

    Why didn't the dip**** cop go get the shotgun out of the car? Let's put it this way...anyone with the most minimal of firearms training KNOWS the shot that kills a SNAKE is most likely going to go through the snake (I mean, how many people shoot down the full length of a snake, hmmmmm?) and that bullet is going to go somewhere.

    Nope, the cops got off lightly, as usual.

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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I have to wonder:
    If "none of the above" has such a strong showing, why are each of these 'truths' (or a varianth thereof) so often seen posted by the anti-gun side?
    The Left relies so heavily on lies to make it's points that it can even begin to remember what truth looks like.

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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No, that doesnt really answer the question.
    All right. You are asking why "none of the above" is a common answer to your poll, disagreeing with the other options. My response: people have different opinions and will express them. The existence of an opinion that disagrees with yours ("none of the above" in my case) and support for that opinion does not invalidate your own. I might well ask:

    If "A cop is better trained, competent, has better judgment and is more stable than an ordinary citizen " has such a strong showing, why is "none of the above" so often seen posted by the pro-gun side?
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    Heh. Do you realize how many children I'd murder to be immortal and have an army of willing slaves?

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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    If "A cop is better trained, competent, has better judgment and is more stable than an ordinary citizen " has such a strong showing, why is "none of the above" so often seen posted by the pro-gun side?
    1) The people wanting to limit the freedom of people to choose to own guns have an unrealistic, overly idealistic view of the police, and a woeful ignorance of history.

    2) The people believing the cops are more stable than the statistics indicate they are want to believe this because it buttresses their belief that their neighbors shouldn't be allowed to be free to own guns.

    3) None of the above was selected by more cynical people recognizing the dangers inherent in limiting basic human freedoms.
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 04-27-09 at 07:27 PM.

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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    All right. You are asking why "none of the above" is a common answer to your poll, disagreeing with the other options. My response: people have different opinions and will express them.
    Actually no -- I am asking why, If "none of the above" has such a strong showing, are each of these 'truths' (or a varianth thereof) so often seen posted by the anti-gun side?

    That is, if they are so obviously not true, why do they keep getting repeated?

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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The average cop is probably more of all those things than the average citizen, mostly due to the fact that they all go through extensive firearm training while the average citizen doesn't. There's also probably something to the fact that in situations where guns are being used, police officers have a different set of interests than do private citizens.



    in nyc, police have a hit rate of 13%, the criminals 21%


    I think the police have improved since. put this puts things in perspective.


    Police don't train for the most part. They "qualify".
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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    While both may share that interest, the cop is also interested in following standard police procedure in order to keep his job and ensure that should a shooting be necessary, it will comply with the rules and regulations of his job. These rules are not always in alignment with what a civilian might do.



    Anecdotal evidence is worse than no evidence.




    the safest place when being shot at by many police officers, is right in front of him.




    While as low as 13%, NYPD currently hovers around 30%. This is abysmal, though improved.




    During 1999 in New York, only 13 percent of the bullets fired during police gunfights struck home

    Where did all the bullets go?
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    Re: Question for the anti-gun crowd: Which of these things are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Actually no -- I am asking why, If "none of the above" has such a strong showing, are each of these 'truths' (or a varianth thereof) so often seen posted by the anti-gun side?

    That is, if they are so obviously not true, why do they keep getting repeated?
    The Left follows the rules established by the Volkisher Beobachter. Lie, lie, and lie again, and eventually it becomes the truth.

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