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Attending a tax day tea party protest?

Are you attending a tea party protest?

  • Yes, I'll be protesting

    Votes: 5 25.0%

  • Yes, but not to protest (explain in post, please)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, not attending

    Votes: 15 75.0%
  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
don'ttreadonme said:
I personally don't give a sh*t how much my state gets back in federal spending compared to what we pay in taxes. Why should that make a difference, really? I'm tired of too much spending, period. I don't care if it's in my state or not.

And people have been forced to pay into the social security and medicare systems for YEARS. I don't think they're obligated to turn down the money when it's time for them to retire. (Do you plan on doing that?) They were forced to pay it to the government instead of investing it on their own. Do you believe they forfeit their rights to complain about spending because of that?
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The point is we have had socialism in this country for decades. We have had deficit spending in this country for decades. Reagan and both Bush's spent like drunken sailors. Yet, all of sudden its worth protesting now that we have a Democrat in office. If you wanted credibility, you should have started these back in the 80s or at the very least, after Bush submitted his first budget proposal.

In Texas though, you do get to know that you guys are one of the only red states that pays in more in taxes than it gets back. So you do have a beef there.
 
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You guys are about a decade late.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Face it, good protesting is simply the province of peaceniks, naive college students living off their parents, loons from peta, and hard core leftists that wish they were hippies (basically, people that don't work and thus have time for it). You right wingers have never gotten the hang of it to do it right.
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Whoa you do realize you have just re-enforced several ironic stereotypes? I always thought it was Republicans that were lazy living off capital gains vs. what you mentioned that wanted to work towards a goal other than monetary dollar value benefit.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
The point is we have had socialism in this country for decades. We have had deficit spending in this country for decades. Reagan and both Bush's spent like drunken sailors. Yet, all of sudden its worth protesting now that we have a Democrat in office. If you wanted credibility, you should have started these back in the 80s or at the very least, after Bush submitted his first budget proposal.

In Texas though, you do get to know that you guys are one of the only red states that pays in more in taxes than it gets back. So you do have a beef there.
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Many of the people going to these tea parties were unhappy with the way Bush was spending and they voiced it. (I've seen plenty of people alluding to it during my short time here.)

Bush was in office 8 years. How much has Obama proposed in spending in the last 3 months? People are reacting to the scope and the pace of this.
 
don'ttreadonme said:
Many of the people going to these tea parties were unhappy with the way Bush was spending and they voiced it. (I've seen plenty of people alluding to it during my short time here.)

Bush was in office 8 years. How much has Obama proposed in spending in the last 3 months? People are reacting to the scope and the pace of this.
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Don't brings the truth or facts into the argument, it only confuses them.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
The point is we have had socialism in this country for decades. We have had deficit spending in this country for decades. Reagan and both Bush's spent like drunken sailors. Yet, all of sudden its worth protesting now that we have a Democrat in office. If you wanted credibility, you should have started these back in the 80s or at the very least, after Bush submitted his first budget proposal.
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It's really not up to you to say when we should draw the line about taxes since you don't think taxes are ever too high!

And, no, we have not had socialism in this country "for decades". But that is where we are headed now ie. auto, banking, health care.

Bush was too fiscally liberal for my tastes (and for a lot of other conservatives). I was against the bailouts from day 1. It's not "all of a sudden that it's worth protesting" - the things that we're protesting are recent developments!
 
Someone should tell these protesters that the Boston Tea Party was not protesting 'being taxed', they were protesting being taxed 'without representation', which we all have. They actually gladly paid taxes, to their state, in which they had representation.

I don't think they know, someone should tell them, they are making fools of themselves....
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
I think you must have a hard time distinguishing between hate filled rants and someone just being a smart ass or engaging in sarcasm. Maybe this is due to some lack of self-deprecating humor on your part as a conservative or something.

You should lay off the personal attacks though. I was not personally attacking you as a conservative or anything, I was just being a smart ass. I am sorry, but just like there is that whinny, annoying, peta..ultra-greenie wing of the Democratic Party, there is also a deliverance wing of the Republican Party that people are going to make fun of. Just like people make fun of the loons that spend a year in the top of a tree to keep it from being cut down. If you are not part of the "deliverance wing" of the Republican Party, and I don't gather you are, then I am not sure why you are taking such a personal offense when someone makes a sarcastic remark about them. I mean do you really identify that much with this guy:

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Hey man, is it just like the dirt bag war protesters as well? what happened to them btw? :lol:
 
SD do you rip apart liberal protesters, or is your belittling only directed at conservatives?

I cannot attend today's rally. My state's protest is an hour and a half from where I live and they are set at times when a) my kid gets out of school and b) I have a meeting w/clients. Ironically, when I was young, liberal, selfish and had no responsibilities, I had plenty of time to attend liberal protests. Now I have other obligations I must meet first. But that doesn't stop me from supporting the tea parties and cheering you guys on.

I bet they will get very little mention on my local, blue state news. I'll be checking!
 
StandUpChuck said:
SD do you rip apart liberal protesters, or is your belittling only directed at conservatives?

I cannot attend today's rally. My state's protest is an hour and a half from where I live and they are set at times when a) my kid gets out of school and b) I have a meeting w/clients. Ironically, when I was young, liberal, selfish and had no responsibilities, I had plenty of time to attend liberal protests. Now I have other obligations I must meet first. But that doesn't stop me from supporting the tea parties and cheering you guys on.

I bet they will get very little mention on my local, blue state news. I'll be checking!
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Let me know when you guys have a keg party. I'll check it out. :mrgreen:
 
StandUpChuck said:
We'll get you drunk and photograph you with a poster expressing radical right wing sentiments. I'll order the keg.
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Can I join in?:mrgreen:

I'll do anything for free booze:mrgreen:
 
Dix said:
It's really not up to you to say when we should draw the line about taxes since you don't think taxes are ever too high!

And, no, we have not had socialism in this country "for decades". But that is where we are headed now ie. auto, banking, health care.

Bush was too fiscally liberal for my tastes (and for a lot of other conservatives). I was against the bailouts from day 1. It's not "all of a sudden that it's worth protesting" - the things that we're protesting are recent developments!
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1. I certainly think the total tax burden right now is too high. However, I think the problem is more at the state level in combination with federal income taxes rather than just at the federal level. Moreover, I am not sure what you guys are complaining about with Obama in that regard being he has not raised your taxes yet, and most people in the middle class actually saw a small tax cut a couple of weeks ago start showing up in their checks.

2. By the definition you guys are throwing around as to what socialism is, we have been socialist for decades. Medicare and Social Security are nothing but socialist programs, and Medicare constitutes a larger portion of heathcare spending than everything in the private sector combined. Moreover, this is hardly the first time in American history the government has nationalized industries when there was systemic risk. We did it with the S&Ls, they did it extensively in both World Wars and during the Great Depression, and the FDIC does it on a smaller scale with small banks all the time.

3. Tarp started under Bush, not Obama, yet no teabagging parties then. Reagan averaged 11% year over year growth in his discretionary budget proposals, yet no teabagging parties then. When Medicare part D was enacted (nothing but pure socialism if thats your concern), no teabagging parties then.
 
StandUpChuck said:
SD do you rip apart liberal protesters, or is your belittling only directed at conservatives?
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Yes, when liberal protesters are out say, protesting the execution of serial killer, or spending a year in the top of a tree to keep it from being cut down, I make fun of them too.

I don't have any problem with protesting, I just think that there is more than a small amount of hypocrisy underlying this astroturfed movement.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
1. I certainly think the total tax burden right now is too high. However, I think the problem is more at the state level in combination with federal income taxes rather than just at the federal level. Moreover, I am not sure what you guys are complaining about with Obama in that regard being he has not raised your taxes yet, and most people in the middle class actually saw a small tax cut a couple of weeks ago start showing up in their checks.
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What about un-looping the loop that the offshore accounts escape through (taxes)?

2. By the definition you guys are throwing around as to what socialism is, we have been socialist for decades. Medicare and Social Security are nothing but socialist programs, and Medicare constitutes a larger portion of heathcare spending than everything in the private sector combined. Moreover, this is hardly the first time in American history the government has nationalized industries when there was systemic risk. We did it with the S&Ls, they did it extensively in both World Wars and during the Great Depression, and the FDIC does it on a smaller scale with small banks all the time.
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:cool:

3. Tarp started under Bush, not Obama, yet no teabagging parties then. Reagan averaged 11% year over year growth in his discretionary budget proposals, yet no teabagging parties then. When Medicare part D was enacted (nothing but pure socialism if thats your concern), no teabagging parties then.
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I did a little research on this and I do like the idea of people getting together to protest something they feel passionate about.

Granted, this "tea party" thing is extremely disingenuous when you look at the Bush years and compare it to the inaction from the right.

It's being called a grassroots efforts but it's being sponsored by lobbyists and promoted by Fox. It's a little bit sad and a little bit funny............like a Donny and Marie comeback album.
 
Gotta love the left and there anti-dissent stance now, I recall how they went on and on about "dissent is democracy" and other such nonsense.


Rather hypocritical these days, no? :lol:
 
americanwoman said:
I would like to go but I have a job. I gots to work instead.
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are you one of them capitalists????:2razz:
I can't make it either, even tho I am retired and drawing social security, company retirement, navy reserve retirement, IRA savings, etc. to the tune of over 6 figures annually. I will just stay home and have a cup of tea...:lol:
 
missypea said:
Granted, this "tea party" thing is extremely disingenuous when you look at the Bush years and compare it to the inaction from the right.

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Most protests are disingenuous anyway. Not because they are protests or anything is bad about protesting, but rather because the protest becomes "smeared" by those who latch on. The same can be said for the anti-war protests that have, for the most part, disappeared now that Obama is President(although nothing has changed). It was never really about the war for alot of people, it was just about hating Bush. Now the tables have turned, and there are alot of people that are protesting because they hate Obama. In the beginning, and at the core, I am sure both protests are sincere and clear in their scope. Its the ones who latch on and attach their personal agendas to it that sully the reputation of the protest. Its the ones who resort to childish name calling, and saying things like Bush=Hitler or Obama=Marx that distract from and destroy the reputation of the protest. But the organizers are still at fault, because they are all but too happy to welcome them in, because they want the press and coverage that large numbers will bring to their cause.
 
WI Crippler said:
Most protests are disingenuous anyway. Not because they are protests or anything is bad about protesting, but rather because the protest becomes "smeared" by those who latch on. The same can be said for the anti-war protests that have, for the most part, disappeared now that Obama is President(although nothing has changed). It was never really about the war for alot of people, it was just about hating Bush. Now the tables have turned, and there are alot of people that are protesting because they hate Obama. In the beginning, and at the core, I am sure both protests are sincere and clear in their scope. Its the ones who latch on and attach their personal agendas to it that sully the reputation of the protest. Its the ones who resort to childish name calling, and saying things like Bush=Hitler or Obama=Marx that distract from and destroy the reputation of the protest. But the organizers are still at fault, because they are all but too happy to welcome them in, because they want the press and coverage that large numbers will bring to their cause.
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Everyone I know who is planning on protesting was against the first bailout that was proposed by Bush! And they were very vocal about it!!

I voted for McCain but I thought his housing proposal that he brought up during a debate was STUPID and I said so. (That was for people to renegotiate their mortgages for what the homes are worth now rather than what they paid for them. Like one commenter said "I should've bought a bigger house!")

So, nope....it's not just because we detest Obama (which I admittedly do).
 
I just can't get myself to get into a collective, foot-stomping, breath-holding, protest-tantrum, just because my political ideology of choice was overwhelming rejected by most of America and kicked to the curb.

I don't think this really has a lot to do with taxes or you would see the democrats and republicans arm-in-arm in this protest. (Democrats get taxed too ya know.)

This is more about a FOXNews led, GOP zealots just taking their piss-and moan whining to a new level.

But ya gotta love a good protest. It shows that democracy is alive and well in America. (Albeit, somewhat childish in nature.)
 
It's being called a grassroots efforts but it's being sponsored by lobbyists and promoted by Fox. It's a little bit sad and a little bit funny............like a Donny and Marie comeback album
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It most definitely was grassroots.

Tax Day Becomes Protest Day - WSJ.com

The movement grew so fast that some bloggers at the Playboy Web site -- apparently unaware that we've entered the 21st century -- suggested that some secret organization must be behind all of this. But, in fact, today's technology means you don't need an organization, secret or otherwise, to get organized. After considerable ridicule, the claim was withdrawn, but that hasn't stopped other media outlets from echoing it.

There's good news and bad news in this phenomenon for establishment politicians. The good news for Republicans is that, while the Republican Party flounders in its response to the Obama presidency and its programs, millions of Americans are getting organized on their own. The bad news is that those Americans, despite their opposition to President Obama's policies, aren't especially friendly to the GOP.
 
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